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Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by moultano »

leephillips wrote: post #115
moultano wrote: post #73

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If you have any example bad queries, I'd love to see them to debug. If you have your search history on, you can find them here: https://history.google.com/history/

This is the exact reply you offered me a few weeks ago when we were complaining about w3schools ranking at the top of Google's results. Ultimately, your "debugging" amounted to explaining that you rank lower-quality results higher because they are more "popular", and therefore, somehow, more useful. I still don't understand the strategy of promoting less reliable, poorer quality information as a way to help the user.…

You didn't really give me a query to debug. I also don't think that's an accurate characterization. (Here's a link to the discussion for those curious. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6426892) People like w3schools probably because it has code samples front and center on every page. People find that very useful, even though as a reference MDN might be better in an abstract sense.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by adventured »

fersho311 wrote: post #64

Chipotle hit $500 for the first time ever: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3ACMG&ei=R15hUrCcG6i2i... As we head towards a strong earnings season, I feel that we might see many companies hitting their highest ever stock price, especially now that the government shutdown has been resolved (sort of)

54 PE ratio, growing at 6%. Welcome to another extreme Fed bubble, round three. A round of POMO shots on the house!

What happens to stocks with 60 and 80 pe ratios, growing at 6% to 12% when the music stops? Same thing that always happens.

Need a Dr. Koop example? How about RetailMeNot (SALE). By the time this bubble is done, they'll probably have a $2.5 to $3 billion market cap, with not even the slightest of fundamentals to support that.

Yellen's dove policy will see this stock market pushed to the limits, and then see it crash spectacularly, again. Repeating asset bubbles is the only trick they know.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by mkhaytman »

md224 wrote: post #120
ChuckMcM wrote: post #103

Google historically left a lot of money on the table (not using every spot on the page for ads, giving away services with real value, etc.) They decided to stop doing that when they decided they were a 'peer' of Apple's. The shareholders love it because it means Google will finally be pulling in as much cash as they 'can' vs as much as they needed. Users seem to be somewhat divided on the issue. Sophisticated users a…

> 'Ranking' on Google is very much a pay to play kind of thing these days with their page layout Could you expand on this? Are you referring to how AdWords content is visually privileged over organic search results?

That, and Google have been introducing more services into the results page (flight shopping comparison, for example).

You can see an article by Danny Sullivan from this summer here: http://searchengineland.com/google-results-too-ad-heavy-1662...

And this is great breakdown of the various types of results Google is providing these days: http://moz.com/blog/mega-serp-a-visual-guide-to-google

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by marssaxman »

chill1 wrote: post #70
oellegaard wrote: post #26

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+1 Their new Google Apps control panel is impossible to use. It has icons that doesn't correspond to the function and no labels. It's like walking around in a nuclear control panel with no lights on. While I'm moving my e-mail away from Google, the last thing I still use is the search, which still feels light weight and easy to use.

> .. the last thing I still use is the search, which still feels light weight and easy to use. If you haven't, you should really give DuckDuckGo [1] a shot. I used Google's search for the longest time, and finally just forced myself to switch to DDG this summer. It was rough for a while, but either I've gotten used to their search algorithm / results, or the results have gotten better. I hardly ever have to use Googl…

I switched to DDG a year ago; it was painless. I think I have gone back to Google for a search maybe twice.

I still use Google Image Search, though that's kind of a different beast.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by tedunangst »

jlgreco wrote: post #111
patrickk wrote: post #65

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I'm using a poor internet connection (because of geography) and my experience is that the usability of Youtube has gone down dramatically. They made a change a while back where the video will only buffer a few seconds beyond where you've paused it. Previously, you could go a few seconds into the video, pause it, and let it buffer 100% in whatever quality you needed, now I find myself having to constantly pause the vi…

The continuing problems with buffering on youtube have caused me to resort to youtube-dl/mplayer.

Your comment about maps is dead, fyi. No idea why. I agree.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by leephillips »

moultano wrote: post #121
leephillips wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the exact reply you offered me a few weeks ago when we were complaining about w3schools ranking at the top of Google's results. Ultimately, your "debugging" amounted to explaining that you rank lower-quality results higher because they are more "popular", and therefore, somehow, more useful. I still don't understand the strategy of promoting less reliable, poorer quality information as a way to help the user.…

You didn't really give me a query to debug. I also don't think that's an accurate characterization. (Here's a link to the discussion for those curious. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6426892 ) People like w3schools probably because it has code samples front and center on every page. People find that very useful, even though as a reference MDN might be better in an abstract sense.

"You didn't really give me a query to debug."

It's right there in quotes, at the top of the very discussion page you link to. I'd like to think you are really interested in these issues and not mounting a disingenuous public relations campaign, but you don't make it easy.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by cma »

lnanek2 wrote: post #74
patrickk wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using a poor internet connection (because of geography) and my experience is that the usability of Youtube has gone down dramatically. They made a change a while back where the video will only buffer a few seconds beyond where you've paused it. Previously, you could go a few seconds into the video, pause it, and let it buffer 100% in whatever quality you needed, now I find myself having to constantly pause the vi…

Ah, I was wondering why I kept leaving videos in tabs to buffer nowadays and they just never did it any more. Very sad day. ;/ Sucks for someone on a mobile connection 99% of the time like me.

They've announced offline viewing for android recently which should help

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Post by moultano »

leephillips wrote: post #127
moultano wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You didn't really give me a query to debug. I also don't think that's an accurate characterization. (Here's a link to the discussion for those curious. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6426892 ) People like w3schools probably because it has code samples front and center on every page. People find that very useful, even though as a reference MDN might be better in an abstract sense.

"You didn't really give me a query to debug." It's right there in quotes, at the top of the very discussion page you link to. I'd like to think you are really interested in these issues and not mounting a disingenuous public relations campaign, but you don't make it easy.

I am very honestly interested in these issues, and in the past HN has been a great source of queries that fail in interesting ways, which is why I keep posting this request.

On "html title tag" what do you want to know about it that the w3schools result at 1 doesn't give you? I know you may not like the site in general, but is there more to a title tag than that?

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