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Re: Interactive Resume

#91

Post by russelluresti »

alan_cx wrote: post #88
russelluresti wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two assumptions in your post that I'd like to point out, and poke some holes in. First, you seem to be missing the actual point of a resume. No one makes decisions on who to HIRE based on a resume. The point of a resume is to get an INTERVIEW. Your resume could actually lack any details of the normal stuff that goes on one (education, experience, skills, etc) - but as long as what you provide gets you that…

Point one. No, I never said or implied what you are saying. Point two. That is frankly so convoluted, I can only assume you just want to oppose what Im saying, but honestly don't know why.

Point one - yes you did. You specifically mentioned comparing people based on resumes. You don't compare people when determining who to interview - you only compare people when determining who to hire.

Point two - how is it convoluted that a person would want to target his resume to a specific type of company? Customizing your resume for the company you want to work for is the first basic principle in writing a resume. He just does it in such a way to also exclude companies he wouldn't want to work for.

Re: Interactive Resume

#92

Post by nathan_long »

alan_cx wrote: post #39

There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio. While this is clever, unfortunately what it does is make the job of getting the candidate's details harder. Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this. I want to compare them. Easy with the pile of 2 page resumes and attached portfolios, but with this I have to muck on a computer, trying to make out various bits and bobs, then even…

>> Does it facilitate the passing on of vital information? No.... it shows that the so called designer has failed to understand what the point of design is. Design is supposed to facilitate, NOT make things harder.

If the "vital information" is "how many years of experience in software X does this person have?", you are correct. But why should that be the information you care about?

If the information is "can this person make nice graphics and do amazing things in a browser?", yes, it does. It both gives the information and demonstrates its veracity.

>> given a pile of competent resumes, I'd probably skip this applicant.

Given the pile of companies who will think this is awesome, the creator will probably skip those who don't.

>> Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this. I want to compare them

I agree that the "pile of text" or "page of images" resumes will not be easy to directly compare to this person's. But does that really matter? The resumes are there so you can move on to an interview, right? Aren't you convinced that this person is fun and has great skills? I certainly am.

Re: Interactive Resume

#93

Post by alan_cx »

wodow wrote: post #45
alan_cx wrote: post #39

There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio. While this is clever, unfortunately what it does is make the job of getting the candidate's details harder. Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this. I want to compare them. Easy with the pile of 2 page resumes and attached portfolios, but with this I have to muck on a computer, trying to make out various bits and bobs, then even…

Would a single, promiment link at the start to a vanilla CV/resume have negated this? Then you would have the best of both worlds.

Partly, yes. The link would be called "Portfolio".

Re: Interactive Resume

#94

Post by rimantas »

Inc82 wrote: post #43

Wow, I really can't believe the negativity there. This is creative and amazing. The guy seems like a winner. The comments on here are dreadful. The point here was to make a statement and get eyeballs. This site already has accomplished that.

I can believe and understand the negativity, because:

a) making a statement and getting eyeballs is not always a good thing—a lot depends what kind of statement it is and how exactly eyeballs were attracted.

b) understanding when you shouldn't do something just because you can is a very big plus for a creative person. Alas, this resume shows the extreme lack of it.

Re: Interactive Resume

#95

Post by alan_cx »

Tichy wrote: post #65
alan_cx wrote: post #39

There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio. While this is clever, unfortunately what it does is make the job of getting the candidate's details harder. Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this. I want to compare them. Easy with the pile of 2 page resumes and attached portfolios, but with this I have to muck on a computer, trying to make out various bits and bobs, then even…

Do you really need all the details, since you can immediately see he has the skills? Why bother checking his university grades?

Yes, and due diligence.

Re: Interactive Resume

#96

Post by alan_cx »

teh_klev wrote: post #87
FLUX-YOU wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Send email requesting a 2 page resume 2. Add to resume pile Done! This situation should never occur on your behalf: Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this.

>"Send email requesting a 2 page resume" It's an extra step in the process for the hiring bod, the resume should come before this. Also first time load on IE, Chrome and Firefox did this: http://i.imgur.com/Wn62Rh4.png At first I thought this was some cryptic "why the lucky stiff" malarky. Only after hitting refresh did the site load properly, I almost closed the tab, he might not be so lucky with someone who is a li…

I got that too, except its just said "LOADING", none of the other stuff. Maybe if I had waited longer? As you say, refreshing it fixed the issue.

Re: Interactive Resume

#97

Post by alan_cx »

russelluresti wrote: post #91
alan_cx wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Point one. No, I never said or implied what you are saying. Point two. That is frankly so convoluted, I can only assume you just want to oppose what Im saying, but honestly don't know why.

Point one - yes you did. You specifically mentioned comparing people based on resumes. You don't compare people when determining who to interview - you only compare people when determining who to hire. Point two - how is it convoluted that a person would want to target his resume to a specific type of company? Customizing your resume for the company you want to work for is the first basic principle in writing a resum…

P1. Now you have changed your point. You said that I said no one hires based on a resume, and I did not say they did.

P2. Same again. You are making up yet another scenario.

Re: Interactive Resume

#98

Post by hammock »

lhnz wrote: post #85
alan_cx wrote: post #39

There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio. While this is clever, unfortunately what it does is make the job of getting the candidate's details harder. Say I have a pile of resumes and what not on my desk, and this. I want to compare them. Easy with the pile of 2 page resumes and attached portfolios, but with this I have to muck on a computer, trying to make out various bits and bobs, then even…

>> But it shows that the so called designer has failed to understand what the point of design is. Design is supposed to facilitate, NOT make things harder. You are the confused person here. Design isn't meant to facilitate understanding in all cases. You're letting one specific use cloud your understanding of a general concept. Designers design with specific aims in mind. These could be expression of content, ease of…

Resume 1 is extremely easy to fake, resume 2 is an authentic signal.

From parent comment:

>There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio.

Re: Interactive Resume

#99

Post by lhnz »

alan_cx wrote: post #89
lhnz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> But it shows that the so called designer has failed to understand what the point of design is. Design is supposed to facilitate, NOT make things harder. You are the confused person here. Design isn't meant to facilitate understanding in all cases. You're letting one specific use cloud your understanding of a general concept. Designers design with specific aims in mind. These could be expression of content, ease of…

No, not confused. The fact you have widened the issue out to "all cases" seems to imply you might be. The aim of this resume is like all other resumes, to get an interview. If not, its not a resume, its part of a portfolio. Last point relies on making that comparison in the first place, which is a straw man. No reason to compare like that. Its your own invention.

> The aim of this resume is like all other resumes, to get an interview (1). If not, its not a resume (2), its part of a portfolio (3).

So what you're saying is that: a resume exists to get an interview (1), and therefore if it's not a resume and is a portfolio (3) it therefore does not exist to get an interview (2)?

Fact: resumes exist to get interviews.

Fact: portfolios also exist to get interviews.

Fact: a resume can have the form of a portfolio piece and vice versa.

The resume is a terrible way of validating ability. I would prefer a portfolio piece of a designer, or a repository of a developer to their resume.

>> Last point relies on making that comparison in the first place, which is a straw man. No reason to compare like that. Its your own invention.

I disagree. The intention of sending a resume in this form is likely to be that you want to be judged on the merits of the format you chose and the skills it required. Your original implication that they want to be judged with the same criteria as a black-and-white grid is almost certainly false.

Re: Interactive Resume

#100

Post by lhnz »

hammock wrote: post #98
lhnz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> But it shows that the so called designer has failed to understand what the point of design is. Design is supposed to facilitate, NOT make things harder. You are the confused person here. Design isn't meant to facilitate understanding in all cases. You're letting one specific use cloud your understanding of a general concept. Designers design with specific aims in mind. These could be expression of content, ease of…

Resume 1 is extremely easy to fake, resume 2 is an authentic signal. From parent comment: >There seems to be some confusion between a resume and a portfolio.

Such a ridiculous comment.

What possible ethical reasons do you have for trying to insure the purity of resumes and portfolios? Why can they not interbreed?

Portfolios authentically demonstrate ability in a way resumes cannot, hence either resumes should direct employers to portfolios or the designer should attempt to blur the forms (yes, the purpose of a design might be to add trustworthy information to a document in the form of visible proof of experience in the medium. As shown: an exchange of message clarity for message trustworthiness.)

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