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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by kolev »

Daishiman wrote: post #107
gw wrote: post #82

I upgraded my 13.04 system this morning and now it is unfortunately unusable. Any time I try to switch users, it consistently brings me to a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer that I cannot get out of, even when hitting Ctrl+Alt+F#. I'm downloading the iso now to try a fresh install.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

Yes, same experience. Unfortunately, for the peace of mind, you should always rebuild - in-place upgrades for Desktop never work smoothly.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by bashinator »

Theriac25 wrote: post #112
Daishiman wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

That's just beyond retarded. I weep when people have been conditioned by Canonical (and Microsoft) to accept this.

Especially since the upstream distro (Debian) is absolutely phenomenal when it comes to in-place major upgrades.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by kintamanimatt »

kolev wrote: post #121
Daishiman wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

Yes, same experience. Unfortunately, for the peace of mind, you should always rebuild - in-place upgrades for Desktop never work smoothly.

I've only ever had one hose my system but that's because I locked the screen while the upgrade was in progress. The upgrade never finished because I couldn't unlock and answer any of its conflict resolution questions.

Today's upgrade was pretty smooth and uneventful.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by csense »

The main feature I'm looking forward to is zswap in kernel 3.11 [1]. Basically instead of swapping, the kernel will first compress infrequently used pages in RAM, which is orders of magnitude faster than swapping to disk.

The practical effect of this is basically the same as a free RAM upgrade!

[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/537422/

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by lcedp »

eterm wrote: post #28
abbot2 wrote: post #10

To be honest "what's new" page looks, well, not very convincing: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

As someone who doesn't use the dash, I am wondering what's in it for me. Personally I've tried a few distributions over the last year or so because I've been unhappy with unity but Ubuntu's ease of use still makes me return to it, although right now I'm typing this from a Debian box. I didn't like the dreadful* gnome3 speed so switched to i3. Now if I could just work out how to stop the lazy window focus... The troub…

What do you mean by 'lazy window focus'?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by homosaur »

Can someone explain to me what's different about the Mac and PC versions of 64 bit Ubuntu? I've seen these Mac versions show up lately but what's in them? I can't find the data clearly on the website. Is it just different drivers and defaults?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by simonster »

throwaway2048 wrote: post #114
zxcdw wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mozilla.

Mozilla's bugzilla and mailing lists are approved posts only, that's not very open.

Source? I don't recall jumping through any hoops to post on Bugzilla or mozilla.dev.platform, and I definitely have no relationship with Mozilla.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by giovannibajo1 »

csense wrote: post #124

The main feature I'm looking forward to is zswap in kernel 3.11 [1]. Basically instead of swapping, the kernel will first compress infrequently used pages in RAM, which is orders of magnitude faster than swapping to disk. The practical effect of this is basically the same as a free RAM upgrade! [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/537422/

Mavericks has the same feature, curious they're both shipping at the same time

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by AlexanderDhoore »

homosaur wrote: post #126

Can someone explain to me what's different about the Mac and PC versions of 64 bit Ubuntu? I've seen these Mac versions show up lately but what's in them? I can't find the data clearly on the website. Is it just different drivers and defaults?

"Unfortunately, even though Macs use a variant of EFI (an earlier version of what's now called UEFI), they apparently can't cope with multi-catalog CDs, and simply refuse to boot them. This left us in rather a quandary: we needed to support UEFI systems, but we didn't want to drop support for Macs either.

I therefore created the amd64+mac CD images, which are exactly the same as the amd64 images except that they only support BIOS booting. Macs are happy to boot these in their BIOS emulation mode." [1]

TL;DR There is no difference... Normal CDs just won't boot on Macs.

[1] http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about...

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