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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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This is the release. These aren't candidate release images. They're just likely waiting until 13:10 GMT to officially announce it. I believe 13.04 was released at 13:04 too.

Every time, these releases get later and later!

I wonder what they will do after 23.10 . :D

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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I upgraded my 13.04 system this morning and now it is unfortunately unusable. Any time I try to switch users, it consistently brings me to a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer that I cannot get out of, even when hitting Ctrl+Alt+F#. I'm downloading the iso now to try a fresh install.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

That's just beyond retarded. I weep when people have been conditioned by Canonical (and Microsoft) to accept this.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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No, it's not released. The release is imminent. Ubuntu is developed in the open, so you get to see candidate release images on the page linked. Ubuntu is not released until the release is announced. If you're in doubt, expect to see an announcement on the ubuntu-announce mailing list, or its archive at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ Also see #ubuntu-release-party on Freenode. At the moment, the to…

> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.

There is no "right" free software/open source spirit of community involvement. It begins and ends with the licenses used, full stop. Beyond that no one has any right to say how other people should run their projects. If they don't like it, they can fork it thanks to the licensing, but even when that happens it doesn't mean that the original maintainers were somehow less free software/open source.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Of course it's not developed 100% entirely in the open and with "spirit of community". Name one company that meets this standard.

Mozilla.

Mozilla's bugzilla and mailing lists are approved posts only, that's not very open.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

#115
post #82

I upgraded my 13.04 system this morning and now it is unfortunately unusable. Any time I try to switch users, it consistently brings me to a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer that I cannot get out of, even when hitting Ctrl+Alt+F#. I'm downloading the iso now to try a fresh install.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

I have been updating my Lenovo laptop every 6 months since 7.03 and it's still going fine.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have always found that continous upgrade eventually break the system. A clean install should be the recommended choice.

That's just beyond retarded. I weep when people have been conditioned by Canonical (and Microsoft) to accept this.

It's not all Canonical's faults. A highly customized install with a few extra libs here and there and some proprietary softare can easily wreck havoc on a system.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…

> People need to look at OpenSUSE again!

Agree. Not because I necessary dislike Ubuntu, but because openSUSE is awesome. It's insanely flexible (hence the chameleon mascot), fast, YaST is great, one-click installs are great for newbies, openSUSE build service is great, and installing software/new repositories is very easy. Zypper also beats yum and apt-get...

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…

All of your complaints seem to be about the defaults. That's fine, but I don't see that it makes sense to switch distribution because you don't like the defaults, given that all the other options are available inside Debian and/or Ubuntu as well. There's Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Kubuntu etc. all of which have different desktop environment defaults, enthusiastic developers who look after it. Some intend to swit…

>Switching distribution because you don't like the main Ubuntu flavour's defaults is just fragmentation when there's no need for it.

What reason would you have to stay with Ubuntu if you don't like any of its defaults? If someone doesn't like Ubuntu's changes to Debian, but still uses Ubuntu, isn't that just fragmentation when there's no need for it?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just beyond retarded. I weep when people have been conditioned by Canonical (and Microsoft) to accept this.

It's not all Canonical's faults. A highly customized install with a few extra libs here and there and some proprietary softare can easily wreck havoc on a system.

The same problem persisted after I did a fresh install, so in this case there is something that it doesn't like about my computer, a Lenovo G780.
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