ubuntu-gnome 13.10 now comes with gnome 3.8, I will give it a try.
Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#82I upgraded my 13.04 system this morning and now it is unfortunately unusable. Any time I try to switch users, it consistently brings me to a black screen with a frozen mouse pointer that I cannot get out of, even when hitting Ctrl+Alt+F#. I'm downloading the iso now to try a fresh install.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?
Yes. A million times yes. About a month ago now, my laptop's windows install decided to take a dive so I reinstalled windows and took it as an opportunity to dual boot ubuntu as well. Ubuntu worked out of the box. I'm still finding things that need drivers a month later in windows.
I don't think this opinion can be based on personal experience. One or two computers, especially developers machines are a sample size too small. Also, I've had an opposite experiences. Not to mention that what we most notice is divergence from the past trend. Regardless, I don't think many hardware manufacturers prioritize Linux for their deployment. I can see, however, that since the latest Ubuntu image is at most 6 months old, it can have more built in, while Windows 7 is many years old now, tends to require 'Windows Update' to get all the latest drivers. Overall, however, I think Windows gets way more driver support just because of the market. I don't know how you can argue that.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#84Let me guess. Postgres 9.1, Ruby 1.9.1, PHP 5.3.11, a lot of extremely old packages... Please tell me if I'm wrong! I'm really tired of the software world moving forward and Ubuntu turning into Debian Woody.
$ php --version
PHP 5.5.3-1ubuntu2 (cli) (built: Oct 9 2013 14:49:12)
Copyright (c) 1997-2013 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v2.5.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2013 Zend Technologies
with Zend OPcache v7.0.3-dev, Copyright (c) 1999-2013, by Zend Technologies
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having spent yesterday setting up a new laptop to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, Ubuntu works far, far better. Windows needed drivers installing for everything from the network interface up. And I'm still having troubles with the network - I can use wifi fine, but the wired connection refuses to pick up an IP with DHCP. Ubuntu on the other hand needed a single change to the boot parameters to make screen brightness ad…
Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?
Been my experience too. But I would like to point out, in October 2013, for the first time in my twenty year history of using Windows computers, Windows 7 managed to find the drivers for a piece of hardware I have, a usb soundcard, Online!
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#86Let me guess. Postgres 9.1, Ruby 1.9.1, PHP 5.3.11, a lot of extremely old packages... Please tell me if I'm wrong! I'm really tired of the software world moving forward and Ubuntu turning into Debian Woody.
Yep, Postgres 9.1 and Ruby 1.9.3
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does Ubuntu with LXDE compare with Xubuntu (another lightweight desktop environment)?
Lubuntu is more lightweight, which will be important for older and lower powered machines (or if speed is a huge deal for you), but certain things might be a bit less polished. You would have to try it to see if it works for you. Xubuntu is a bit more full-featured and can feel somewhat like Gnome 2 did back in the day. But there's no reason you can't install both and try them on any Ubuntu machine, these are really…
I have grown to really love Lubuntu because it strikes the perfect balance for older laptops. With a few tweaks, can look as beautiful though basic, and it uses RAM and CPU sparingly.
To me, it's a different distro because it only comes with the lightweight choices. (I found it very time-consuming to strip down Ubuntu, compared to tweaking Lubuntu upward).
The only minor criticism I could have is that it's a lot of work to make a Lubuntu theme from scratch, because of the many components to theme.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#88So, a user (zeis, don't take it personally) publishes a link to the release of Ubuntu 13.10, but he's actually wrong... Despite this, his post gets 188 points of karma (as of know).
Now that's what I call a karma system that doesn't work well.
I should just post "Ubuntu 14.04 (Taunting Tiger) released" and get my own share of karma...
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#89Let me guess. Postgres 9.1, Ruby 1.9.1, PHP 5.3.11, a lot of extremely old packages... Please tell me if I'm wrong! I'm really tired of the software world moving forward and Ubuntu turning into Debian Woody.
distrowatch has nice table at the bottom of each distro's page: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
php 5.5.3. Postres 9.1.10
Ruby isn't listed, but I usually use rvm, rbenv, or something along those lines.
On the plus side, gcc is 4.8.1, which is as up to date as your going to get without installing development builds.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> an open source OS on my mobile phone You can do that now with Firefox OS, and unlike Ubuntu Touch, it's actually developed openly. Ubuntu for phones is open source in the same sense as Android -- developed behind closed doors by a company that doesn't particularly care about community input. If you think that Ubuntu for phones is really going to be any more open than Android, I expect you'll be disappointed.
- All Ubuntu Touch development happens publicly on a mailing list and in IRC. - All the Ubuntu Touch specs are public and discussed during a public developer summit online. - Daily images and snapshots for everyone - Weekly hangouts with community members and status reports. - Nearly all of the core apps shipping on the image are community contributed. It's nice that you are excited about Firefox OS (me too), but ser…
> All the Ubuntu Touch specs are public and discussed during a public developer summit online.
Interesting. Can you point me to the online discussion of Mir that took place during the first six months of its development?
> Nearly all of the core apps shipping on the image are community contributed.
... With a mandatory CLA that allows my open-source contributions to be used under a proprietary license by Canonical. See the detailed explanation here [1] on why this is such a big deal.
> seriously there's no need to go around making things up about another OSS project.
The irony of hearing that statement going in the other direction after Canonical's handling of the Mir/Wayland debacle is truly precious. My criticism isn't about promoting FFOS, it's about calling Canonical out on their bad behaviour.