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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by endijs »

spindritf wrote: post #69
endijs wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Destkop there is reason to upgrade if you are using stock software and kernel (as I'm). Unity in 13.10 feels more responsive than in 13.04 was. Pretty much everything is bumped to newer versions. Even things in VirtualBox work faster now (13.04 was installing 4.2.10, but 13.10 is installing 4.2.16). Dont know what is the reason for speed gains - Kernel in Ubuntu or newer VirtualBox. One thing to do after upgrade i…

VirtulBox offers a repo for Ubuntu. deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian raring contrib non-free $ VirtualBox --help Oracle VM VirtualBox Manager 4.2.18 It also carries virtualbox-4.3 if you're feeling adventurous.

Good to know. I will stick with 4.2 branch for now. :) Need to wait for at least 4.3.1. Too many things changed in 4.3.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by Flimm »

chatman wrote: post #70
rlpb wrote: post #2

No, it's not released. The release is imminent. Ubuntu is developed in the open, so you get to see candidate release images on the page linked. Ubuntu is not released until the release is announced. If you're in doubt, expect to see an announcement on the ubuntu-announce mailing list, or its archive at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/ Also see #ubuntu-release-party on Freenode. At the moment, the to…

> Ubuntu is developed in the open Though mostly "open", but not developed entirely in the right free software / open source spirit of community involvement and upstream contributions.

Of course it's not developed 100% entirely in the open and with "spirit of community". Name one company that meets this standard.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by drakeandrews »

Demiurge wrote: post #51
jon-wood wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having spent yesterday setting up a new laptop to dual boot Windows and Ubuntu, Ubuntu works far, far better. Windows needed drivers installing for everything from the network interface up. And I'm still having troubles with the network - I can use wifi fine, but the wired connection refuses to pick up an IP with DHCP. Ubuntu on the other hand needed a single change to the boot parameters to make screen brightness ad…

Are you saying Ubuntu has better driver support than Windows?

Yes.

A million times yes.

About a month ago now, my laptop's windows install decided to take a dive so I reinstalled windows and took it as an opportunity to dual boot ubuntu as well. Ubuntu worked out of the box. I'm still finding things that need drivers a month later in windows.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by thejosh »

rudiger wrote: post #61
thejosh wrote: post #35

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For my workstation as a web developer, I use Ubuntu with LXDE running the latest releases as it's always nice to have the latest software, if I had to support users I would use 12.04 though. Servers is quite nice with 12.04 though, and that's what they are designed for.

How does Ubuntu with LXDE compare with Xubuntu (another lightweight desktop environment)?

To preface - The PCs I work on at home and work are fairly decent - Intel i7 Haswell, 16GB of RAM, 256GB SSD, so it's not like my using it because my PC is old.

LXDE has some usability issues (such as random glitches, which seems to be mostly resolved since 13.04) over XFCE or other desktop environments but I find it quite a joy to use, especially as I work on a single monitor but have multiple workspaces which I can tab through using alt+scroll, or using scroll on the wallpaper - for example I have development (sublime/chrome) on workspace 1, emails on workspace 2, testing on workspace 3 (which runs in the background and is handy to run).

LXDE seems to be the only desktop environment that doesn't lag when I have quite a few things open and going off at once, but I need to re-experiment with XFCE now 13.10 has come out to give it a proper go.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by jcastro »

hdevalence wrote: post #57
frank_boyd wrote: post #22

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It's a bit sparse maybe. And as "early" adopters, we probably don't care about the social crap etc. But as long as I can yank those packages whenever I want, I'm fine with that. What I'm really excited about this time around is the launch of Ubuntu Touch, being able to use an open-source OS on my mobile phone.

> an open source OS on my mobile phone You can do that now with Firefox OS, and unlike Ubuntu Touch, it's actually developed openly. Ubuntu for phones is open source in the same sense as Android -- developed behind closed doors by a company that doesn't particularly care about community input. If you think that Ubuntu for phones is really going to be any more open than Android, I expect you'll be disappointed.

- All Ubuntu Touch development happens publicly on a mailing list and in IRC.

- All the Ubuntu Touch specs are public and discussed during a public developer summit online.

- Daily images and snapshots for everyone

- Weekly hangouts with community members and status reports.

- Nearly all of the core apps shipping on the image are community contributed.

It's nice that you are excited about Firefox OS (me too), but seriously there's no need to go around making things up about another OSS project.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by nobleach »

Let me guess. Postgres 9.1, Ruby 1.9.1, PHP 5.3.11, a lot of extremely old packages... Please tell me if I'm wrong!

I'm really tired of the software world moving forward and Ubuntu turning into Debian Woody.

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by djeikyb »

cmiles74 wrote: post #53
Symmetry wrote: post #48

I was sad to see that the option to swap caps lock and escape was gone (I think I'm blaming GNOME here). But on the other hand I ought to be doing that programaticly in my setup script, so I finally just got around to adding that there. EDIT: I almost decided to switch to Xubuntu, but then I installed xfce, tried it out, and found that they didn't provide that option either. Besides, using xmonad with xfce is much mo…

I call out to setxkbmap to get this done. It should work with any window manager and desktop environment.[0] setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps [0] https://gist.github.com/Spoygg/3122226

Last time I was using Ubuntu+Unity as my main desktop (11.xx), I used `xmodmap` to swap my keys, and found that every so often it'd be reverted. Have you experienced similar problems with this technique?

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by skyebook »

nobleach wrote: post #77

Let me guess. Postgres 9.1, Ruby 1.9.1, PHP 5.3.11, a lot of extremely old packages... Please tell me if I'm wrong! I'm really tired of the software world moving forward and Ubuntu turning into Debian Woody.

The release notes actually say Apache 2.4 and PHP 5.5[1], no mention of Ruby or Postgres though. Postgres runs its own Debian repo[2], by the way :)

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseNotes

[2] http://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/debian/

Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)

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Post by ikt »

abbot2 wrote: post #10

To be honest "what's new" page looks, well, not very convincing: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

Neither does the 13.04 version either:

https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

or 12.10:

https://help.ubuntu.com/12.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

and 12.04 is even more sparse!:

https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html

The requested URL /12.04/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html was not found on this server.

D:

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