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Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by X4 »

joetech wrote: post #48
pavlov wrote: post #20

Is this just a closed-source ripo^H^H^H^H fork of Three.js? The example shown on famo.us is identical to MrDoob's Three.js example that uses CSS3: http://www.mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/threejs/css3d/periodict... Edit: looks like it's the other way around -- according to MrDoob's G+ post from last year, he based his Three.js CSS3 example directly on the design created by famo.us: https://plus.google.com/113862800338869…

The first thing I did when I saw Famo.us last year was rip into the code. With a little persistence, you can pretty easily use the code without waiting for their release.

I prettified the code myself too, but it's really unreadable. Have you extracted the parts into a nice library? Mind sharing your efforts?

Honestly, without going into the source code, I was like, this is matrix transformation, this is matrix transformation.. then I saw matrix3d and I was like yeaah!

I believe that no software can excel without a good mathematical foundation. What I see coming is that this approach will be extended by P2P Load-Balancing. Similar to what Bitcoin Hackers [1] were doing and still do [1].

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[1] http://community.websense.com/blogs/securitylabs/archive/201...

[2] http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/1364/how-can-i-st...

PS: Page 3 on the article answers the headline: No!

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by tehwalrus »

koenbok wrote: post #49

My prototyping framework http://framerjs.com uses the exact same approach, divs positioned with only css matrix transforms. Great for high performance animations. I've sometimes thought about building a full fledged ui framework on top of it but it doesn't work (exactly the same) in all browsers. And I suspect offloading everything to the gpu by default will lead to other sorts of performance issues but I'll have to…

nice - I have to use chrome though, no examples seem to work in Firefox. Is that expected?

EDIT: ahh, the http://famo.us/ example doesn't work in FF either, it redirects to a boring splash page. I didn't notice the redirect the first time!

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by X4 »

koenbok wrote: post #49

My prototyping framework http://framerjs.com uses the exact same approach, divs positioned with only css matrix transforms. Great for high performance animations. I've sometimes thought about building a full fledged ui framework on top of it but it doesn't work (exactly the same) in all browsers. And I suspect offloading everything to the gpu by default will lead to other sorts of performance issues but I'll have to…

Thanks for posting this here! Highly appreciated and relevant. I'll check this out, but why a Facebook Group?? Can't you just open an IRC Channel? I would definitely join and contribute back. I don't have a Facebook account and won't use it and I'm still very social. hmm, I guess many hackers don't have a FB account and hate using the Facebook Oauth Login on 3rd party sites.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by kevjiang »

quarterto wrote: post #30
jimzvz wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the law for someone always mentioning Betteridge's law of headlines when a headline is posed as a question on Hacker News?

Ahem: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5742893

I came to this comments page just to check if quarterto's law was still holding up :)

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

spot wrote: post #59
anon1385 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since when did 'the web' involve giving away all the source code and not charging people for things? Did Google open source their search engine and let anybody advertise on their site for free while I wasn't looking? I really don't understand this meme about the web being 'open'. Much of the native desktop software I use is open source. Practically none of the web services I use are open source. There is not much cha…

web client technologies are open. this is a client technology.

Things like Flash, Silverlight, PDF readers and other native plug-in components generally aren't open.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by X4 »

diydsp wrote: post #56
josteink wrote: post #22

> Welcome to famo.us > a javascript engine and framework that solves HTML5 performance And doesn't work in Firefox. Aweso.me!

Ah, is that why http://famo.us just looks like a blurry pile of laundry to me? But most importantly: didn't Intel release around this time last year JIT compilation of Javascript to run on their HID (GPU onboard CPU)? (wouldn't that make slow-execute javascript a non-issue?)

Oh snap, thanks for reminding me of this. It's called ParallelJS. Here's a link to a demo video: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/research/intel-labs-r... :) I like the accent

I'd recommend checking the Ajaxian article[1] that sums it up. You can find the source on Github [2]. You can play around with the River Trail interactive shell [3] too.

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[1] http://ajaxian.com/archives/intels-parallel-extensions-for-j...

[2] https://github.com/RiverTrail/RiverTrail

[3] https://github.com/RiverTrail/interactive

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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Post by bsaul »

camus2 wrote: post #23

Vaporware. This stuff was announced years ago, we saw only one basic demo , they raised quite a lot of money though, yet there is no product today. What did they do with the money? Mr Doobs did the same demo, even better since he used the framework he created ,three.js : - http://www.mrdoob.com/lab/javascript/threejs/css3d/periodict...

Same thought. Sent their link to a friend of mine, who said "hey, seems like i'm already registered to their beta...". That was one year ago, and he completely forgot about it.
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