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Introducing TogetherJS

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Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by annnnd »

mikegioia wrote: post #24
Mikeb85 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares. It's IE which needs to catch up to the standards Mozilla and Google are implementing. It's not like Windows users will be left out in the dark, they can always install Firefox. Tell your users to use a real browser, or write a letter to Microsoft telling them to get with the times... Even the University I attend doesn't support IE with their web-apps. They support Firefox...

Unfortunately we have a lot of school administrators using our app with their Dept of Ed issued computers. The same DOE that actively encourages everyone to use IE and disallows software upgrades without IT help. Trust me, we try to get them to switch to Chrome/FF but it's an uphill battle.

This should actually help you - the less developers support IE, easier will be to find reasons for the switch.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by nichol4s »

dirkk0 wrote: post #70
nichol4s wrote: post #69

I'm very excited to see so much enthusiasm for TogetherJS. We are currently building something similar and plan to release that next week. It has lots of similarities but we target a somewhat different market. Some of the differences, you do not need to write a single line of code and it will even work with advanced application that require sign in without sharing security tokens. We plan to release Surfly next week,…

Will this be open source, too?

No, it will be a free online service.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by mikegioia »

ianb wrote: post #53
mikegioia wrote: post #3

This looks great but it seems they have no plans to support Internet Explorer ( https://togetherjs.com/docs/#browser-support ). That's a shame because most of our users who need this level of support all use IE :/

Speaking as the principal developer for TogetherJS: In the past we have opted not to work on IE support because we had limited resources, and because we wanted to focus on what we thought were the hard problems: how should the tool act, how do we communicate changes between browsers, how do we integrate with apps, etc. Supporting Internet Explorer was always something we knew we could do, it wasn't a hard problem, bu…

Thanks for this response. I think if we implement TogetherJS in our app we'd be doing somewhat-heavy IE testing so in that event we could perhaps send pull requests upstream for any bug fixes.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

hrjet wrote: post #55

What worries me, and I realized this only after trying TogetherJS, is that Websockets don't require a special permission in browsers! So any website with JS enabled is now going to be able to do peer-to-peer? Could this be a can of worms, security-wise?

1. WebSockets allow real-time client-server communication. They do not allow P2P and have to follow the Same Origin Policy.

2. WebRTC allows P2P. Can't see how it's a security issue.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by newsreader »

BHSPitMonkey wrote: post #4
mikegioia wrote: post #3

This looks great but it seems they have no plans to support Internet Explorer ( https://togetherjs.com/docs/#browser-support ). That's a shame because most of our users who need this level of support all use IE :/

Yesterday, IE users weren't using TogetherJS, either, and I'm sure you weren't bothered by it at the time.

Today, IE users are not using TogetherJS. And if TogetherJS doesn't get it's act together they won't be using it tomorrow either. I have four browsers installed on my computer and everything I develop has to work on all four; one of them happens to be IE 10.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by newsreader »

jmacd wrote: post #16
mikegioia wrote: post #3

This looks great but it seems they have no plans to support Internet Explorer ( https://togetherjs.com/docs/#browser-support ). That's a shame because most of our users who need this level of support all use IE :/

You can check out GoInstant as well, which supports IE 8+ http://goinstant.com

Bookmarked the site; I will be looking into this one latter on today.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by newsreader »

beagle3 wrote: post #65
mikegioia wrote: post #3

This looks great but it seems they have no plans to support Internet Explorer ( https://togetherjs.com/docs/#browser-support ). That's a shame because most of our users who need this level of support all use IE :/

Well, maybe you should contact Microsoft and ask them to provide a port or provide similar functionality. Your users have, after all, paid Microsoft for the privilege of using IE.

Last time I checked IE was free.

Re: Introducing TogetherJS

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Post by thefreeman »

newsreader wrote: post #79
beagle3 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, maybe you should contact Microsoft and ask them to provide a port or provide similar functionality. Your users have, after all, paid Microsoft for the privilege of using IE.

Last time I checked IE was free.

Last time I checked, it only runs on windows. Which is not free...
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