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Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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I just ran this on the LG G2 in chrome via a wifi connection, and it was noticeably slower than the desktop version, which is to be expected because of the way JS runs on ARM processors. "These guys" didn't reinvent the web; they just have a good PR connection.

If someone can invent a way to have buttery-smooth HTML5 performance on mobile devices, they'll have solved a significant hard problem. This solution? It's just a hack.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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post #49

My prototyping framework http://framerjs.com uses the exact same approach, divs positioned with only css matrix transforms. Great for high performance animations. I've sometimes thought about building a full fledged ui framework on top of it but it doesn't work (exactly the same) in all browsers. And I suspect offloading everything to the gpu by default will lead to other sorts of performance issues but I'll have to…

Check these for examples of performance:

http://www.framerjs.com/static/examples/GoogleNow/index.html

http://www.framerjs.com/static/examples/NewsFeed/index.html

http://www.framerjs.com/static/examples/Intro/index.html

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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post #12

Sounds like they came up with a novel and impressive optimisation that everyone could benefit from, but decided to keep it to themselves and charge for it. So less "reinvent the web" than "go back to the way things were before the web" really. Whether or not there's anything wrong with that is left up to the reader. :)

Since when did 'the web' involve giving away all the source code and not charging people for things? Did Google open source their search engine and let anybody advertise on their site for free while I wasn't looking? I really don't understand this meme about the web being 'open'. Much of the native desktop software I use is open source. Practically none of the web services I use are open source. There is not much cha…

Since the headline was "reinventing the web" (a pretty ambitious, even bombastic goal), it would be fair to expect the solution to be open-source and/or free. Of course had the headline been "improving the web" or "making a faster web" then our expectations might have been different.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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> Welcome to famo.us > a javascript engine and framework that solves HTML5 performance And doesn't work in Firefox. Aweso.me!

Ah, is that why http://famo.us just looks like a blurry pile of laundry to me?

But most importantly: didn't Intel release around this time last year JIT compilation of Javascript to run on their HID (GPU onboard CPU)? (wouldn't that make slow-execute javascript a non-issue?)

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

#57
post #12

Sounds like they came up with a novel and impressive optimisation that everyone could benefit from, but decided to keep it to themselves and charge for it. So less "reinvent the web" than "go back to the way things were before the web" really. Whether or not there's anything wrong with that is left up to the reader. :)

Since when did 'the web' involve giving away all the source code and not charging people for things? Did Google open source their search engine and let anybody advertise on their site for free while I wasn't looking? I really don't understand this meme about the web being 'open'. Much of the native desktop software I use is open source. Practically none of the web services I use are open source. There is not much cha…

The web is characterised by all code being visible by default, e.g. "View Source" in every browser. It's agnostic on whether you can charge for that source code, but in practical terms it's pretty tough to publish openly readable source and expect people to pay for it.

Re: Did these guys just reinvent the Web?

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post #12

Sounds like they came up with a novel and impressive optimisation that everyone could benefit from, but decided to keep it to themselves and charge for it. So less "reinvent the web" than "go back to the way things were before the web" really. Whether or not there's anything wrong with that is left up to the reader. :)

Since when did 'the web' involve giving away all the source code and not charging people for things? Did Google open source their search engine and let anybody advertise on their site for free while I wasn't looking? I really don't understand this meme about the web being 'open'. Much of the native desktop software I use is open source. Practically none of the web services I use are open source. There is not much cha…

web client technologies are open. this is a client technology.
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