Is it shipped with Mir? Their what's new page is kinda succinct: https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/whats-new.html
Mir isn't yet ready for prime time. I wonder if they're planning an LTS launch for it. Won't be too good if that happens.
Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
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Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#12Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…
can you use obs to build packages straight from git?
Tarball based build workflows seam rather outdated to me.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#13Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…
> People need to look at OpenSUSE again!
Isn't it really beautiful that we actually can do this, now? We can switch platforms within the same day - without real hassle or pain.
I mean tell a Windows or Apple user that they need to look at something else, and guess what their answer will be...
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#14Releases link is live: http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#15Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…
> People need to look at OpenSUSE again! Isn't it really beautiful that we actually can do this, now? We can switch platforms within the same day - without real hassle or pain. I mean tell a Windows or Apple user that they need to look at something else, and guess what their answer will be...
My guess is "why? everything is working".
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#16Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…
can you use obs to build packages straight from git? Tarball based build workflows seam rather outdated to me.
Yeah, you can. The functionality is called "services". I'm not sure how auto-versioning would work with git though. I have packages building from SVN, and OBS updates the spec file automagically to set the version to the SVN revision.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People need to look at OpenSUSE again! Isn't it really beautiful that we actually can do this, now? We can switch platforms within the same day - without real hassle or pain. I mean tell a Windows or Apple user that they need to look at something else, and guess what their answer will be...
My guess is "why? everything is working".
Or "Why? I've got used to working around all the things that aren't working".
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
can you use obs to build packages straight from git? Tarball based build workflows seam rather outdated to me.
Yeah, you can. The functionality is called "services". I'm not sure how auto-versioning would work with git though. I have packages building from SVN, and OBS updates the spec file automagically to set the version to the SVN revision.
Git describe is what you want.
it will take the nearest tag name and use that as the version with the number of commits from that tag as the release value.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People need to look at OpenSUSE again! Isn't it really beautiful that we actually can do this, now? We can switch platforms within the same day - without real hassle or pain. I mean tell a Windows or Apple user that they need to look at something else, and guess what their answer will be...
My guess is "why? everything is working".
Actually yes, probably. Most people don't understand the importance of transparency for a real and working democracy. "Transparency" as in "open source code", for example.
Re: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)
#20Ubuntu is not going the direction I want for "my Linux. 1. Mir is a huge mistake (My opinion) 2. Unity (Well I am tiled window manager (i3) guy now so all DEs) I really don't like the flow of OS X and it is starting to really look more like OS X. DEFAULT an easily be changed. 3. Lack of community between the Linux ecosystem. Millions is spent on Ubuntu but seems like little makes it upstream. 4. Software Center. They…
> People need to look at OpenSUSE again! Isn't it really beautiful that we actually can do this, now? We can switch platforms within the same day - without real hassle or pain. I mean tell a Windows or Apple user that they need to look at something else, and guess what their answer will be...
As someone who has installed various distros on desktops and laptops many dozens of times (maybe over a hundred) since 1997, let me point out that while there's a decent chance of having no "real hassle or pain", the chance is not insignificant that you will spend hours trying to fix something that went awry during a reinstall.
I'm definitely going to wait a little while to see if other people using packages I use have issues, and see what new tricks we have to pull to use Skype, etc.