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Most federal employees aren't in DC.
~161k are! second only to "N/A": http://cl.ly/image/3U2K232E3102
~1,189k are not!
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure how being out of work without pay is cushy...
They'll be paid back when the government is no longer shut down. So if you have savings, it's essentially a forced paid vacation.
They only get paid if Congress specifically includes language paying them. People are merely assuming congress will do so on what, good faith? Given the nature of this whole bruhaha, I wouldn't discount entirely the possibility of no back-pay.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
They'll be paid back when the government is no longer shut down. So if you have savings, it's essentially a forced paid vacation.
Workers who have been furloughed will only be paid back if Congress explicitly passes a bill to pay them. That has happened in previous shutdowns but it is not certain to happen this time.
For what it's worth, back pay is apparently part of the package in the Senate today. The House already passed legislation guaranteeing it, but for whatever reason (this article suggests Senate Republicans, but I don't know) it didn't get through the Senate.
http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2013/10/back-pay-furloug...
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the people who are making 100-200k would make at the very least double that if they were in the private sector. A GS-15 is equivalent to a Brigadier General(Who would be in charge of thousands of people). Now, keep in mind that some technology positions have inflated GS ranks because it was the only way they could get the salaries high enough to attract talent. Security analysts and programmers don't come che…
Paywise they're peers to Colonels and Brigadier Generals, position scope tends towards being equivalent to Colonel (AF, can't speak to other services or departments), with SES employees being the civil service peers to General officers.
You're right, I was a rank off. That being said, a Colonel is often still in charge of a couple thousand people.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure how being out of work without pay is cushy...
They'll be paid back when the government is no longer shut down. So if you have savings, it's essentially a forced paid vacation.
Why does everyone keep saying this?
There is no guarantee they will be paid! If they will, it will have to be specifically specified in the new budget. Why does everyone act like it is a given?
How about a "probably" instead?
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#46wow a librarian at a GS14 level: [name removed] DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AGRICULTURAL RESEARCH SERVICE LIBRARIAN Maryland Prince George's County BELTSVILLE GS 14 119238 I know the GS schedule is based on how long you work as opposed to how well you work, but i didn't think that non-STEM or non-Management roles made above GS11 or 12.
Unless you're talking about a public library catering to homeless people and children, a "librarian" is typically an educated professional, usually with an advanced degree, who has enough subject matter expertise to efficiently help researchers find relevant materials.
What an ignorant thing to say. Public libraries do more than cater to homeless people and children.
They also employee the advanced degree educated professional librarians you are talking about too.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
They'll be paid back when the government is no longer shut down. So if you have savings, it's essentially a forced paid vacation.
Why does everyone keep saying this? There is no guarantee they will be paid! If they will, it will have to be specifically specified in the new budget. Why does everyone act like it is a given? How about a "probably" instead?
Have they ever not been paid in similar situations?
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#48"Average 78,673.52 Stand. Deviation 39,191.8525 Max 398,322.00 Min 0.00 Variance 1,536,001,304.3535" I don't think variance is being calculated correctly
It is actually correct. Variance is standard deviation squared.
Re: US Federal Employee Salaries (2012)
#49"Average 78,673.52 Stand. Deviation 39,191.8525 Max 398,322.00 Min 0.00 Variance 1,536,001,304.3535" I don't think variance is being calculated correctly
It is actually correct. Variance is measured in "squared dollars", so it's not very meaningful in terms of interpretation.
Re: US Federal Employee Salaries (2012)
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
They'll be paid back when the government is no longer shut down. So if you have savings, it's essentially a forced paid vacation.
They only get paid if Congress specifically includes language paying them. People are merely assuming congress will do so on what, good faith? Given the nature of this whole bruhaha, I wouldn't discount entirely the possibility of no back-pay.
I thought the issue of back pay was already resolved (back pay was approved in congress): http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57606174/government-shut...