Fuck that shit. I like beer. If I have a choice between a job where it's supplied and a job where it isn't, guess which I'm going to choose. You say "investors aren't backing frat houses", but they must be seeing decent returns from companies with a beer supply or they wouldn't be funding them.
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#12Is the subtext here about hostile frat culture, or, worse, about harassment? That's what I think it is. Like a lot of things, I think beer is fine if you're adult about it. We've got quite a lot of beer in our Chicago office (we haul crates from Russian River and Three Floyds and Jolly Pumpkin). But nobody drinks while they work, and nobody drinks whole bottles; we open a bottle and a bunch of people taste. If it's F…
Perhaps there's a difference in culture between bottles versus kegs? The former suggests restraint, the latter doesn't?
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#13FTFA: It’s a recipe for mixed signals, disagreements, misunderstandings. So are endless meetings, endless emails, emergencies at 4:55p on a Friday, upper management, the phase of the moon, and tidal activity. We get it. Your vision of "professional" explicitly doesn't allow for any kind of alcohol ever, but how about not dictating that for everyone else, eh?
You are responding to the tone of the post and to your presumption of who the author is and what they represent, but you're not really responding to the message of the post.
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#14Fuck that shit. I like beer. If I have a choice between a job where it's supplied and a job where it isn't, guess which I'm going to choose. You say "investors aren't backing frat houses", but they must be seeing decent returns from companies with a beer supply or they wouldn't be funding them.
This seems to be the best argument for it. Or rather - would you leave a place that had beer for one that didn't?
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#15Maybe it's because i'm european and not living in the US, but this kegerator in the office thing looks like something that gets old fast. The first weeks it may sound fun, beer in the office, branded beer glasses,etc... but i don't understand how someone could care as the novelty wears of.
And i hope i don't need to comment on that "devs need beer" thing, c'mon, childish stuff.
Does a subset of the employee likes beer? Ok, let's go outside to taste some nice craft beer after work. I don't see anything wrong with that.
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#16Beer in the office is not something anybody needs and yes it requires a level of responsibility about how you use it, I would argue the same thing is true of having free soda in terms of the long term health of people in the office.
I'm a guy and I could care less about if there is beer or not in the office. If anything it's a signal that the company is trying to look cool. It doesn't mean that the company is in fact a cool place to work.
Also, it is completely sexist to say that beer is the fault of guys or that it is keeping women away. The place where I worked where they had beer on tap, just as many women drank as men. Many of the women were as vocal about supporting the beer keg as the guys were, so even though it is popular to claim that it's a gender thing, it's not.
Some people like beer in the office some don't. I don't think gender has a lot to do with it. Alcohol consumption is very much a personal preference that doesn't correlate well with gender from what I can tell.
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#17I work at a place that doesn't have beer on tap, but people will frequently have beers in meetings on Friday afternoons. Which never really struck me as a "fratty" thing to do. It would be interesting if places switched to wine, then the frat angle would be a lot more incongruous. But probably other problems would result :)
Drinking glasses of beer from a tap during a working meeting sounds very frat-y to me, and I'm a drinker.
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#18Fuck that shit. I like beer. If I have a choice between a job where it's supplied and a job where it isn't, guess which I'm going to choose. You say "investors aren't backing frat houses", but they must be seeing decent returns from companies with a beer supply or they wouldn't be funding them.
This is exactly why companies provide it. Like programminggeek said, it's a signal that they're trying to look cool. They would probably prefer if you didn't actually use it (impaired mental function, cost of operation, etc), but simply having it attracts and retains employees like you. There's beer on tap in my office, but I never actually see anyone have any at their desk or during the day. I've only ever seen people drinking at the end of the day before going home.
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#19Seems like a non-issue to me. If a person doesn't want beer, they don't have to drink it. As long as everybody is getting their work done and not getting drunk, who cares?
Soda and junk food aren't great either, why not complain about them?
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#20The better question is: why would you have people on staff who you wouldn't trust to be mature enough to handle the situation?