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Considering how many people end up with it by default because it's the cheap (or free) option would suggest otherwise...
Price is also part of the buying decision making process, e.g. choice.
The problem with Android is choice
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Re: The problem with Android is choice
#42Considering how many people are "choosing" Android, I'd say a good many of us like choice....
No. That's a pathetic, played-out canard. If you're building a knock-off phone in a Chinese sweatshop, are you going to hire a team of engineers to spend man-decades developing an OS, or are you going to use the FREE one? Yeah, that's why the whole Android "market share" charade is a bunch of bullshit.
Apple shipped a reported (estimated) 135.8 million smartphones — iPhone5 and iPhone4 models."
The S2 and S3 are hardly "knock-off phones".
That there aren't any low-end iphone, and the fact that you can use most apps on low end Android phones as well as on high end ones, just makes Android that more attractive in my opinion.
My previous phone was a Samsung S1 (unfortunately they were a bit rushed, and had crappy GPS -- even if everything else was great). My current phone is a Galaxy Note II -- and I also have a cheap, spare HTC Explorer phone that I can use for prototyping ideas with a physical device (anything that needs GPS/Accelerometer/Screen/Camera+software). And it could be used for deploying pretty much anything in a very cheap and straightforward package (even has usb, wifi and bluetooth for linking with other systems...).
source:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tjmccue/2013/01/28/does-apple-ip...
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#43To give a historical perspective, there was a similar issue with Unix OS's a while back. You'd jump from a Linux box to a Solaris box, and things wouldn't work the same way? Simple things, like flags on "ps". Or, more seriously, the "shutdown" command ( shudder ). That's only the CLI. Then you get into what Window Manager you're using, what desktop environment, etc. Did any of this benefit the end user? In the end, m…
I think Linux stood a real chance with the introduction of Ubuntu a long time ago. Graphical package management was enormous, coupled with Gnome and a very simple installation. But stagnation came very quickly. That distribution is 10 years old and all the changes to it only added more fluff, more bulk, annoying notifications, uglier windows, sprites and mini icons all over the place. It looks the exact same except w…
From that perspective Ubuntu didn't add much to Debian, or existing variants like Knoppix.
> The problem wasn't lack of consistency or choice. It was like going from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Now I can only see myself using Linux as a stepping stone or rescue procedure for failed machines.
I don't follow. You thought Ubuntu was OK, and among one of the good things was consistency and opinionated UI -- and you think that's still there -- but you don't like it because of the theming?
And what are you comparing to, OS X?
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#44FTA: I think many who extol Android’s flexibility fall into the tinkerer category, including some tech bloggers. [...] That’s fun for them; but they’ve made the mistake of not understanding how their motivation differs from the rest of us. The problem with usability nuts and Apple nuts is that they fall into the "one perfect solution exists" category. That's fun for them, as they like their uniform devices just fine…
You fandroids are just ridiculous. The author is an Android developer who blogs an awful lot about how much better Android is than just about anything else. He criticises one aspect and you lot (usual suspects) come out and ardently defend the fail with the typical snarks and passive-agressiveness. They irony of this is that you project this behaviour onto 'Apple nuts', derogatorily describing the author as such. Ser…
That could take a while. Just remember back a few years when Android 1.x was out against the iPhone. Oh how the fandroids were gushing just how awesome their android is compared to the iPhone and when met with the clearly shortcomings of Android, they acted just like the fandroid you replied to.
You know, back then, iPhone has always had a smooth UI. There were no lacks or jitters. Nothing. Can't say the same thing about Android. Oh what a laggy mess that was but cue the fandroid boasting "Mine doesn't lack. It is pretty much smooth". Complete reality distortion. But how would they even know? How would they know what a smooth UI looks like? They wouldn't dare touch an iPhone so they just like to set their user experience with Android as the nonplusultra and it just doesn't get better than this. Who could make a better functioning UI? Certainly not Apple is what they'd say.
Seeing as how long it took Android to finally start with hardware acceleration to help with the UI responsiveness and how that didn't even out all the kinks, it is clear that Android always had disadvantages that other OSs don't have. But far be it from the fandroids to admit to that. That would be weakness.
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#45Considering how many people are "choosing" Android, I'd say a good many of us like choice....
Considering how many people end up with it by default because it's the cheap (or free) option would suggest otherwise...
And around here, no one has cheap Android handsets - it's all Galaxy S4s, HTC Ones, and Note 2/3s...
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
You fandroids are just ridiculous. The author is an Android developer who blogs an awful lot about how much better Android is than just about anything else. He criticises one aspect and you lot (usual suspects) come out and ardently defend the fail with the typical snarks and passive-agressiveness. They irony of this is that you project this behaviour onto 'Apple nuts', derogatorily describing the author as such. Ser…
>There are a lot of things wrong with Android, and the sooner the community talks about them, the greater the chance Android has of becoming what you all want it to be That could take a while. Just remember back a few years when Android 1.x was out against the iPhone. Oh how the fandroids were gushing just how awesome their android is compared to the iPhone and when met with the clearly shortcomings of Android, they…
Guess you never experienced an iPhone 2G or 3G on iOS 4. You'd press an icon and 5 seconds later something would happen. Was a complete disaster...
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-gadgeteer/apple-should-advi...
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#47While setting defaults in stone and never changing them might work if some people like your choices, being flexible has always been the greater path to success.
Witness the car industry, fashion industry, PC industry, etc... For better or worse, we like having alot of choices available.
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#482. i like the feeling. that if i ever need to change something, i probably can. its just a search away.
3. i like it that i can change things beyond even what the article was talking about if i wanted. e.g. say the if the silk browser was reviewed to be much faster than webkit/chrome/ff and i wanted to try it out on my lg phone..i can try...
4. 'choice' may even open up new functionality perhaps? does ios have llama/automateit/tasker equivalents?
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#49for me choice , Intents is one reason to love android.
Re: The problem with Android is choice
#50FTA: I think many who extol Android’s flexibility fall into the tinkerer category, including some tech bloggers. [...] That’s fun for them; but they’ve made the mistake of not understanding how their motivation differs from the rest of us. The problem with usability nuts and Apple nuts is that they fall into the "one perfect solution exists" category. That's fun for them, as they like their uniform devices just fine…
As an Apple user, and former Apple engineer I disagree... I don't think one perfect solution exists, but I also don't think pushing a lot of decisions to the user is a good idea. The fallacy is thinking the goal is to provide a solution for all users. Stake out a position make choices, be the best product for the users that you work for, and let someone else cater to the other users. I don't personally like Windows P…