I've always been the biggest Google fanboy but I've had it with their creep towards maximum value extraction while pruning useful services that don't support the stock price. Consider my opting out a tiny protest.
If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month
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#142So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…
Nowhere do the ToS limit this to "public reviews." The ToS say that ads may display "your Profile name, Profile photo, and actions you take on Google or on third-party applications connected to your Google Account." "Actions you take on Google" is incredibly broad, and could be construed to include your email activity, web searches, Google Checkout purchases, etc. This is what concerns me: I can't say for certain whi…
"Actions you take on Google" is indeed frighteningly broad. But although I'm not a legal expert, I think that the sentence you quoted has to be interpreted in a different way when you consider the entire paragraph, which limits the scope of that sentence.
"If you have a Google Account, we may display your Profile name, Profile photo, and actions you take on Google or on third-party applications connected to your Google Account (such as +1’s, reviews you write and comments you post) in our Services, including displaying in ads and other commercial contexts. We will respect the choices you make to limit sharing or visibility settings in your Google Account."
I interpret that last sentence as "only things that are publicly shared by you are subject to being displayed". I assume that means that email, privately shared G+ posts, web searches, etc. are safe from becoming public. Although I agree it's very vague.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why there are so many Google apologists?
Does not bashing everything Google does immediately make someone a Google apologist? The fact that they do a lot of very questionable things does not mean everything they do should be immediately condemned. Judging a single action as neutral or useful does not preclude disapproving of the actor in general, and general disapproval should not preclude viewing specific actions neutrally and in context.
> Does not bashing everything Google does immediately make someone a Google apologist?
Of course not. However, there is no denying that HN as a community is really biased in favor of Google.
Just for comparison: when the news came that you'd be searchable by name in Facebook, half the discussion focused on "delete your account!" and "they are trying to kill privacy!". Google puts your name and picture on ads online, something that in the "real" world requires a ton of paperwork and usually money exchanging hands (including yours)? Nah, dude, that's fine.
I know they are only slightly comparable, but my point is: the bias in favor of Google is there. May not be everyone, may not be an organized PR campaign, but it is definitely there.
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#144So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…
Exactly. Reviews do more good. Than harm.
- Reviews have helped me a lot in choosing better products and services thus saving time. I always search for reviews in Amazon, Flipkart and in Google before I make a buying decision.
- And a Social graph on top of reviews = win. Social reviews means, better buying decisions.
Social reviews will only help Internet community move forward!
- Lets not forget that — Google has the most Credible accounts(read-as verified) so this keeps reviews - real, unbiased and the data credible.
But, they should make sure that - they show updated reviews, not stale ones!
A Product review might remain the same(phone review), but a Service review(restaurant) might change over-time.
Finally, I wish good products and services for myself. And with social reviews, we are only helping each-other in a better and safer Internet experience.
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#145Are we getting a cut of the ad revenue if we are endorsing it? ;)
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#146So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…
Critics don't write reviews to be used for promotion. More experienced reviewers try to construct their articles in such a way that they are difficult to quote.
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#147It would be fun to mess with Google's algoritms -- +1 this product is amazing -- the rats in my apartment are now twice as big, considerably more numerous, and openly aggressive.
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#148You have to opt in, in order for Google to start using your name. If you do not want this to happen, you are all set. (That is, unless prior settings i had in google pre-selected the option to not let Google use my name in their ads)
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#149exaggerated title IMO
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#150So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…
Exactly. Reviews do more good. Than harm. - Reviews have helped me a lot in choosing better products and services thus saving time. I always search for reviews in Amazon, Flipkart and in Google before I make a buying decision. - And a Social graph on top of reviews = win. Social reviews means, better buying decisions. Social reviews will only help Internet community move forward! - Lets not forget that — Google has t…
Right. Also I am just happy the brightest tech minds in the world occupy themselves with this kind of BS.