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Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by sahaj »

illumen wrote: post #91
ce4 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like Amazon's best rated 5 and 1 star review comparison. I don't mind when one of my ratings comes up at the top either. The most truth lies always in the honest "bad rating" reviews (well, almost always) that others found useful. I really hope that Google does not just please their advertising customers and only show praising reviews but also the critical ones too. Let's wait and see if it's awesome.

When you can only +1 or like something, then the bad reviews do not exist. Advertisers win.

I'm not sure that's true, but that's not what this is about. When I search for something I want to know which places my friends have +1'd. I want the best, not the worst. I don't think Google is taking away the ability for you to see the bad reviews if you go click on badly reviewed local/search place.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by SusanLTomlin »

biggerwinky wrote: post #109
jrockway wrote: post #107

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But that's not what this is, it's reviews from Google+ Local.

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Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

haberman wrote: post #79

So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review? I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing? If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/…

Context matters. If I say something about a product in a comment or review, it will usually be seen as my honest opinion. However, if the same statement appears in a paid advert, it may appear as if I was endorsing the product for personal gain.

In other words, the whiff of dishonesty that adverts always have may rub off on me.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by tensor »

thezilch wrote: post #17
kevinh wrote: post #7

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It's generally not the review that's the problem, but tying it to a user's image and real name without their permission.

WTF? What review system, exactly, doesn't link to the reviewer's profile -- permission implied by posting? It's not even a generalism; it's a fact, full stop.

I seem to remember that some review system allowed the use of pseudonyms or anonymity. In fact, here is a random example from Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/AG48K5RA3M4FK/ref=cm_cr...

Who is Joe? I have no idea. I still find Amazon reviews useful though. I've long refused to rate or comment on apps in the google Play store because of their real name policy. I would do so anonymously though.

For me, it's simply that I don't feel comfortable with the world knowing so much personal information about me. What sorts of hobbies I have, restaurants I frequent, etc. It's really a massive privacy problem. So I no longer review products in Google's system.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by dwaltrip »

kylek wrote: post #47
PeterisP wrote: post #42

Can I easily delete my Google+ account w/o hampering my Gmail/calendar/etc? I made it once but I see only drawbacks in having it. I'm already fed up with the repeated requests to merge my Youtube 'channel' (wtf? I don't have or want a channel, I've made [edit] For example, I'm worried about their warning on Google+ deletion page 'You won't be able to use the "Sign in with Google" button to log in to third-party apps.…

This a million times. I feel like I've been trying desperately hard to NOT let me youtube account 'merge' with a new 'channel' or with my main Google account. NO. NO. NO. I don't want to use my real name. I don't want a google+ account for my youtube name. I don't even want a channel. I just want to watch videos, and maybe [pseudo-]anonymously comment once in a blue moon. Am I really a minority user?

I feel exactly the same. I think many others on YouTube have similar use patterns.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by cegev »

pallandt wrote: post #14
reustle wrote: post #8

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My domain is also set like that and it is a fairly fresh google apps account, so it's probably the default.

Perhaps because you don't have Google+ enabled as an available service. I get a similar message and this is the reason in my case.

I have Google+ enabled as a service, and shared ads are still disabled for my domain. It does appear to be the default setting for Apps.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by bsullivan01 »

spankalee wrote: post #104
lsc wrote: post #96

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>Again, no where did I ever say that an ad is better than an organic result. Please don't claim that I did. It's simply not true. Hm. I'm sorry. That is the impression I've gotten from multiple google employees... that is the impression I got from your post, too. However, you are correct. that's not what you said, that's my interpretation of what you said, which yeah. Is a very different thing. (I mean, I could say I…

That's actually as much, or more, of an argument for better ads as it is for "worse" content. Competition is generally considered good, and I see competition all around here. In search Google is not simply going to slow down, that would be a recipe for obsolescence. If Google can make search results 10x better, I'm sure they can figure out how to monetize it. If Google lets Bing catch up, that's trouble. In ads, if t…

In ads, if the ads compete with search results, then make the ads better.

Or hide the content way down, or make the content slightly worse than ads, or make ads look like content. I mentioned the scams that Google, your employer does. This http://i.imgur.com/mhJhc5W.png is good for everyone, long term, right ?

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by bsullivan01 »

notatoad wrote: post #95
davexunit wrote: post #43

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Why there are so many Google apologists?

i prefer to think of myself as reasonable, rather than an apologist. if i publish a public review of something, i do it specifically so that other people can see that review. I'm not going to get mad because google has done with my review exactly what i wanted to happen with it. if you don't want people to see what you write, maybe you should consider using a diary rather than a publishing service.

"i prefer to think of myself as reasonable, rather than an apologist. if i publish a public review of something, i do it specifically so that other people can see that review."

See it where? On every billboard on earth? CNN, BBC, Superbowl commercial? (without any compensation for you)

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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Post by tiziano88 »

kylek wrote: post #47
PeterisP wrote: post #42

Can I easily delete my Google+ account w/o hampering my Gmail/calendar/etc? I made it once but I see only drawbacks in having it. I'm already fed up with the repeated requests to merge my Youtube 'channel' (wtf? I don't have or want a channel, I've made [edit] For example, I'm worried about their warning on Google+ deletion page 'You won't be able to use the "Sign in with Google" button to log in to third-party apps.…

This a million times. I feel like I've been trying desperately hard to NOT let me youtube account 'merge' with a new 'channel' or with my main Google account. NO. NO. NO. I don't want to use my real name. I don't want a google+ account for my youtube name. I don't even want a channel. I just want to watch videos, and maybe [pseudo-]anonymously comment once in a blue moon. Am I really a minority user?

Just create a random Google+ page with a made-up name and associate your YouTube channel with that
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