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Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

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People are slowly leaving Facebook as they seek out more privacy control. Obviously Facebook still dominates the world of social networks, but there's a lot of friction involved in this aspect of it. So what does Google decide to do? They decide to follow in the footsteps of Facebook and replicate all the same privacy problems, so not only are people going to leave G+ due to changes like this, but people aren't even…

"It's repeating the mistakes of others in exchange for a quick short-term profit." That's basically the definition of modern business.

Google started out by doing the opposite: looking at other search engines, seeing specifically where they fell short, and then correcting those faults.

I don't think Google is evil for what they're doing with Google+. I think they're uninspired. They're not doing anything new, just repeating what others have done hoping to jump onto a bandwagon. Some minor Google+ tricks, like circles, are nice, but they don't address any of the reasons why someone might actually leave Facebook.

This practice has often proven to make a quick buck, but has rarely proven to be sustainable.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#73

This actually doesn't seem terrible to me: If I published a public review on a product, why should Google not auto-match this up to a search result? That's the logical next step. It's what I'd expect from Google. I don't see anything privacy breaking about it of it's own... As long as the review was public, ofcourse -- or only being shown to those it was published to. That said, I just went ahead and opted-out of it…

But it's hard to say what extent this can have. What if you like a video on youtube that happens to be related to a product and google decides to spin that into an ad? Product endorsements can be a valuable component of a social service but there is a great potential for manipulation here.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#74
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you publish a negative review of a restaurant? Now it's super easy for them to find you and possibly harass you. What if you're in a marginalized group? Now online harassment can move into real world harassment if you've reviewed local places you enjoy. Lots of people are harmed by a "real names" policy: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Rea...

What if you publish a negative review of a restaurant? Now it's super easy for them to find you and possibly harass you. That actually happened to a friend of mine, and he enjoyed it. Made the restaurant look even worse when he posted their infantile response.

Happened to me too. I got an email from their lawyer making vague threats and I thought about it, and replied that they could sue me if they so wished. They had no case (obviously) and I've the time and money so I was kind of curious to explore the legal system in that light.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#75

Do you guys think I should remove my reviews of all of the adult toys that I own?

lol speaking of this, one day I was looking for hotel reviews on the interwebs. At the top of the list were 4 and 5-star hotels. Toward the middle, 3-star ones I might consider, then down lower a bunch of sleazy-sounding ones with hourly rates implied.

Some service, I doubt it was google, as this was about two months ago, was connecting facebook profiles to some of the reviews and it added something like this to the descriptions, "Jane Doe, a friend of $my_education_professor" stayed here and rated it good.

I _really_ didn't need that mental image of $my_education_professor's friends enjoying themselves in sleazy-sounding hotels. I don't know that it reflects on him directly - it shouldn't, and I think more power to him, but damnit if that software didn't facilitate that image to be briefly projected on my brainpan. :) Next time I see him, I sure hope I don't get overcome with urges to ask, "SO HOW OFTEN DOES JANE DOE ENJOY THOSE SLEAZY HOTELS. DO YOU EVER GO THERE WITH HER?" icky, icky icky :)

This is exactly why we shouldn't have software generating images of other's lives for us, false or otherwise.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#76
This will give everyone a useful tool to grief companies for using google ads. Just pick a obscene picture, and write obscene "review" for that product (maybe even rate it 5 stars to encourage google to use your review), and instant have the world see your profanity associated with that brand.

Can't possible see how this couldn't backfire for google.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#78

This actually doesn't seem terrible to me: If I published a public review on a product, why should Google not auto-match this up to a search result? That's the logical next step. It's what I'd expect from Google. I don't see anything privacy breaking about it of it's own... As long as the review was public, ofcourse -- or only being shown to those it was published to. That said, I just went ahead and opted-out of it…

"That said, I just went ahead and opted-out" Right, that's my problem. Here's something that's been bugging me for some time, and that applies to all services that turn in features by default: do they do it because they believe most people will want this feature, or do they do it because that's important for their business and they hope that most people won't bother to turn it off / won't know the thing is turned on.…

> If this new feature is so great, people will see it and turn it on, why force it down on the user?

Because they're trying to expand the way they monetize their user base and they suspect that most people won't give a shit either way. So if you're looking to roll out this new thing that you think will be more useful to your customers (advertisers), you want maximum value from your product (users).

So, on by default. A few people will complain and threaten to leave Google services, nothing will come of it, and Google expands the sophistication of it's core money generation platform.

Re: If you use Google+, you could become an ad next month

#79
So you write a public review of a business, and then you're upset because Google shows people that review?

I really don't get it. What if your review was the first search result instead? Isn't that the same thing?

If I search for a product on Amazon, it shows me the number of stars for each product, and if I click on that it shows me excerpts of different people's reviews. How is that any different? http://imgur.com/7FC2jfx

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