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Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
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Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I expect a higher level of debate here than the CNN message boards. I'm disappointed that my expectations were not met.
It's an accurate observation that (a) everyone who knows anything about US politics already knows, but (b) this is a very international community in which as much as 50% of the viewers of this thread might not be in the (a) group. So I'm not really sure why you think it's not a valid observation to post here. If you don't think this article is appropriate for HN, that's fine (and I'm with you on that). Once it is her…
> What 'debate' on HN do you expect about such an article?
Something better than "the hipster socialist crowd", which adds nothing to the discussion but makes it harder for that discussion to be useful.
Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
I expect a higher level of debate here than the CNN message boards. I'm disappointed that my expectations were not met.
It's an accurate observation that (a) everyone who knows anything about US politics already knows, but (b) this is a very international community in which as much as 50% of the viewers of this thread might not be in the (a) group. So I'm not really sure why you think it's not a valid observation to post here. If you don't think this article is appropriate for HN, that's fine (and I'm with you on that). Once it is her…
1. It's conjecture, not an accurate observation.
2. It's unnecessarily inflammatory.
Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
I expect a higher level of debate here than the CNN message boards. I'm disappointed that my expectations were not met.
It's an accurate observation that (a) everyone who knows anything about US politics already knows, but (b) this is a very international community in which as much as 50% of the viewers of this thread might not be in the (a) group. So I'm not really sure why you think it's not a valid observation to post here. If you don't think this article is appropriate for HN, that's fine (and I'm with you on that). Once it is her…
Any thread about environmental topics becomes a space to debate environmental politics, just like any thread about the US government becomes a space for leftists and right-libertarians to take pot shots at each other (I don't encounter many supporters of the traditional GOP faction here).
This might not be a good thing, but it surely isn't unexpected.
Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#15not being an apologist, but i'm curious as to what the alternative would be. if i believed that more open information was the solution to factual journalism, then i'd have more sympathy for this report. the truth, however, is that journalists spin context of information (with graphs, info charts, interactive elements, and polls) to sell ads and get more eyeballs. while i agree that obama has been extremely heavy-hand…
>if i believed that more open information was the solution to factual journalism, then i'd have more sympathy for this report.
Translation from Newspeak: access to the facts would prevent their dissemination.
Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#16not being an apologist, but i'm curious as to what the alternative would be. if i believed that more open information was the solution to factual journalism, then i'd have more sympathy for this report. the truth, however, is that journalists spin context of information (with graphs, info charts, interactive elements, and polls) to sell ads and get more eyeballs. while i agree that obama has been extremely heavy-hand…
To be fair, the report ignored pretty much everything that it was not reporting on.
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#17Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#18He's in politics. They're all shades of the same color.
Except for Ron Paul ;)
Actually he's retired now so the statement stands without exception.
Re: Obama’s Efforts to Control Media Are ‘Most Aggressive’ Since Nixon, Report Says
#19not being an apologist, but i'm curious as to what the alternative would be. if i believed that more open information was the solution to factual journalism, then i'd have more sympathy for this report. the truth, however, is that journalists spin context of information (with graphs, info charts, interactive elements, and polls) to sell ads and get more eyeballs. while i agree that obama has been extremely heavy-hand…
So transparency is bad because the media can spin the info, and therefore governments should keep that info secret, instead of actually providing the facts?
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#20If this was a Republican in office right now the hipster socialist crowd would be going ape shit over it. Instead, crickets....
The actual socialist/anarchist crowd are going ape shit over it. (For example, Democracy Now! and NSFWCorp, two superb news organizations, are incredibly critical of the Obama administration over this, and many other issues that Obama has been far-right on)
"Weird twitter" is the closest thing I know to "hipster socialist"s, and most that I follow are very critical of the president.
Can you name a "hipster socialist" group that isn't critical of Obama? There are hundreds of Democratic-party affiliated organizations that haven't said a peep about this, but that's because they toe the party line.