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How Harvey Mudd Transformed Its CS Program And Nearly Closed Its Gender Gap

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Re: How Harvey Mudd Transformed Its CS Program And Nearly Closed Its Gender Gap

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Super cool. I hope more departments follow their lead. (Of course, most CS departments are not headed by women.)

There may be more than you think, for instance:

Stanford Computer Science is headed by Jennifer Widom.

Berkeley EECS's Associate Chair is Tsu-Jae King Liu.

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Here are Harvey Mudd's acceptance rates by gender:

Men 14.4%

Women 38%

Source: http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-545-harvey-mudd-c...

I am perpetually bamboozled how anyone can think anecdotes like this matter. If Harvard wanted too I am sure they could make half their undergraduate population disabled black lesbians. That does not prove that your average state school is horrible and discriminatory just because that is not their class composition.

Elite schools get more applicants of either gender than they have room for and those applicants are of very high quality with very high levels of interest in the subject matter.

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Here are Harvey Mudd's acceptance rates by gender: Men 14.4% Women 38% Source: http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-545-harvey-mudd-c... I am perpetually bamboozled how anyone can think anecdotes like this matter. If Harvard wanted too I am sure they could make half their undergraduate population disabled black lesbians. That does not prove that your average state school is horrible and discriminatory just beca…

Well, the higher female acceptance rate may be because only good female students do CS. If you have a hostile environment, only the most motivated will succeed. It's like a sieve. You are applying selective pressure against a certain group of people succeeding. Expect to get only the most motivated.

Not saying this is the case in reality, but I think the conclusion that they're indiscriminately accepting women is facile.

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Here are Harvey Mudd's acceptance rates by gender: Men 14.4% Women 38% Source: http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-545-harvey-mudd-c... I am perpetually bamboozled how anyone can think anecdotes like this matter. If Harvard wanted too I am sure they could make half their undergraduate population disabled black lesbians. That does not prove that your average state school is horrible and discriminatory just beca…

Well, the higher female acceptance rate may be because only good female students do CS. If you have a hostile environment, only the most motivated will succeed. It's like a sieve. You are applying selective pressure against a certain group of people succeeding. Expect to get only the most motivated. Not saying this is the case in reality, but I think the conclusion that they're indiscriminately accepting women is fac…

Citation needed.

It is much more plausible that these engineering colleges have laxer requirements for females in order to get a 50/50 gender balance rather than public school discrimination.

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Here are Harvey Mudd's acceptance rates by gender: Men 14.4% Women 38% Source: http://www.parchment.com/c/college/college-545-harvey-mudd-c... I am perpetually bamboozled how anyone can think anecdotes like this matter. If Harvard wanted too I am sure they could make half their undergraduate population disabled black lesbians. That does not prove that your average state school is horrible and discriminatory just beca…

Well, the higher female acceptance rate may be because only good female students do CS. If you have a hostile environment, only the most motivated will succeed. It's like a sieve. You are applying selective pressure against a certain group of people succeeding. Expect to get only the most motivated. Not saying this is the case in reality, but I think the conclusion that they're indiscriminately accepting women is fac…

Close to triple through natural occurrence? Come now, you're the one being facile.

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Well, the higher female acceptance rate may be because only good female students do CS. If you have a hostile environment, only the most motivated will succeed. It's like a sieve. You are applying selective pressure against a certain group of people succeeding. Expect to get only the most motivated. Not saying this is the case in reality, but I think the conclusion that they're indiscriminately accepting women is fac…

Citation needed. It is much more plausible that these engineering colleges have laxer requirements for females in order to get a 50/50 gender balance rather than public school discrimination.

Citation needed.

Anecdotal rebuttal: I know a bunch of female students at Harvey Mudd and that doesn't appear to be the case.

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