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Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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I was wondering why ColdFusion is doing so poorly, but then I looked up examples on Wikipedia. Good God.

When I used it, in 1998, it was so ridiculously unstable we had to write a service to restart it when connections started to pile up on IIS. Under heavy loads, the server had to restart every minute or so.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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I like C++. I dislike C++.

No seriously. For everything good about a language there's usually something that's not so good and is completely frustrating. That's why there's so many programming languages, they're all awful and excellent at the same time, asking a favourite is like saying 'do you prefer being hugged whilst on fire, or being hugged by someone on fire'.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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I can also break out Lisp into Arc, SBCL, Emacs, Chicken, Racket but I have to draw the line somewhere. Also historically VBasic has not garnered many responses thus the catch all.

Some VB variants like VBA, VBScript, and VB6, are indeed similar enough to be grouped into a single item, I'll grant you that. VB.NET, however, is not. It's basically C# in VB's clothing. It kept the VB name and some of its syntax to bring VB6 developers into the world of .NET. So, IMHO, grouping VB.NET with VB6 would be like grouping C, C++, and C# together just because they have a C in their names.

What about Java and Javascript? :)

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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What I like: Python (3), C, C++, Shell. What I dislike: Java, C#, PHP, Objective-C. Python (3): it just has ridiculously powerful data structures and sensible error messages C: it's simple(ish), fast and keeps yuppies away C++: has great libraries and frameworks like Qt, is fast Shell: quick and simple for small tasks Java: mainstream and boring, people expect me to use it and work with horribly broken code created b…

You seem like a really annoying person.

> Java: mainstream and boring

> C#: Microsoft

> PHP: ugly, people expect me to use it

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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uhh PHP dislikes are going up (what a surprise)

I don't really get why people hate it so much, sure it has it's flaws, but it also has it's strengths.

I only get the PHP hate from the startup communities. I guess it is just not hip to be using PHP.

There is also way to much love for Apple products.

In the end the tools you use don't matter.

I never heard an investor say: 'Did you write this in PHP on a PC? I'm sorry we are not interested.'

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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"Raise your hand if you hate PHP" many hands go up "Keep your hand up if you've actually built a project using PHP" most hands go down But my coool poooints!! I need to show the guys I hate PHP so they won't think I'm a newb!!

PHP haters are hysterical, I mean that in the clinical sense. It is powerful, flexible, blazing fast (relative, I know), and arguably the easiest (or at least most accessible) language to learn. Its flexibility is what generates most of the hate. It gives you the freedom to create some really bad/stupid code, which noobs inevitably do. But hating it because it will let you hurt yourself is like hating a table saw because it can cut your arm off.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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"Raise your hand if you hate PHP" many hands go up "Keep your hand up if you've actually built a project using PHP" most hands go down But my coool poooints!! I need to show the guys I hate PHP so they won't think I'm a newb!!

Not in my experience though. The people who do like PHP are the ones who started with it and didn't use it too much yet. In my exp. a lot of ruby/python/node.js devs are former PHP developers who built several websites using PHP and switched because they got pissed about PHP (or stuff that is related to PHP). More interestingly imho is the percentage of people who hate PHP but still use it most of their time, since t…

I like Symfony2, I hate PHP. PHP has changed a lot in the last couple of years. The quality of libraries and ease of installation skyrocketed. We learned to avoid certain PHP features or built workarounds on top of them. Therefore I still hate the PHP for that. "extract" function anyone?

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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post #62

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Collections in Java are awful. Guava helps a bit, but it's still poor man's substitute. No LINQ, no lambdas (and the upcoming Java streams API is ugly as well), no delegates, no events. Verbosity. C# is a very nice language, only WPF sucks big time.

I forgot LINQ! I think nobody is using WPF for new project? I like that UI application feels native in C#/Windows.

Just started using WPF for a home project here. :-)

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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Visual basic, no love in 15 years and still kicking C#'s ass on the desktop

Despite its flaws and the scores of bad software written in it, old-school VB was awesome! It was incredibly easy to click together a UI, and fill in the business logic. You had basically no boilerplate or glue code. And there was a huge market for components - report generators, glossy buttons, fancy list views, plotting controls, you name it. I believe the ease of use of VB and the availability of all those COM/ActiveX controls was a huge factor in MS's success in the late 90s.

Re: Poll: What are your liked and disliked programming languages?

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post #52

"Raise your hand if you hate PHP" many hands go up "Keep your hand up if you've actually built a project using PHP" most hands go down But my coool poooints!! I need to show the guys I hate PHP so they won't think I'm a newb!!

>Anyone who disagrees with me is just ignorant!

Do you have any evidence to support that notion? I find it quite the opposite. People who spent a decade being forced to use PHP know the language well, and dislike it. People who have never bothered to learn and just keep making the same mistakes over and over again defend PHP fervently, despite being almost entirely ignorant of the problems with the language.

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