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What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like a 90s BASF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NQuMr45xd4 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJHPpsb3FzM We don't make the MBA/OSX/Chrome you use to write this comment - we make the chair you sit on possible.

Remember what it was like back in the 80s before there were chairs?

Those DEC VT100's were awfully hard to sit on.

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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The author seems to revolve his article around MS software running manufacturing, ambulances, etc. This is only true in the most literal sense possible. The software that runs these industries just happens to be written upon an MS platform due to a number of unfortunate market incidences that forced other OS players out of the game for less than technical reasons. This trend is now rapidly reversing and new software…

I think you're forgetting that when the software systems powering manufacturing, ambulances, etc. was first being deployed MS was the best solution out there. The problem was that corporations didn't upgrade their tools and MS was forced to support aging, obsolete, and insecure technology. They didn't innovate for several years, and we're now seeing the market correct itself as businesses turn towards Linux powered s…

I think you're forgetting that when the software systems powering manufacturing, ambulances, etc. was first being deployed MS was the best solution out there.

I think you're forgetting a huge amount of computing history with that single sentence. Acorn, Commodore, Atari, Apple, others just in the consumer PC market. Sun, SGI, NeXT, DEC, others in the workstation market. That also doesn't consider purpose-built hardware already doing things that PCs eventually took over.

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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But the part of that chair? Manufactured in facilities running on, you guess it, Microsoft software. Transported in trucks built by Microsoft software, on roads built by Microsoft software, sold by companies running Microsoft software. Imagine you got out of that chair for a second. Walked across the street to get a cup of coffee. Got hit by a bus. The ambulance that picks you up? Microsoft. The hospital that saves y…

"You said you wanted to live in a world without Microsoft, Jimmy. Well, now your car has no battery!"

http://s993.photobucket.com/user/nataliasc/media/MrParksWebs...

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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1970s-style PR. This mirrors the oil company messaging: "pay no attention to the oil spills and CIA-sponsored coups de etat, we're the swell people that make the petrochemicals in that ziploc baggie in your little girl's lunchbox." "We power the trucks that bring organic vegetables to your dinner table." Microsoft: For the Children.

Ziploc baggies? That is PR amatuer hour. You've got to talk about making the plastic that premature baby incubators are made out of.

Remember, it can't just be for kids, it has to be saving kids.

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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post #16

The author seems to revolve his article around MS software running manufacturing, ambulances, etc. This is only true in the most literal sense possible. The software that runs these industries just happens to be written upon an MS platform due to a number of unfortunate market incidences that forced other OS players out of the game for less than technical reasons. This trend is now rapidly reversing and new software…

>>The software that runs these industries just happens to be written upon an MS platform due to a number of unfortunate market incidences that forced other OS players out of the game for less than technical reasons.

It should also be noted that Microsoft was condemned for criminal monopolist strategies in a court of law for those "market incidences".

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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1970s-style PR. This mirrors the oil company messaging: "pay no attention to the oil spills and CIA-sponsored coups de etat, we're the swell people that make the petrochemicals in that ziploc baggie in your little girl's lunchbox." "We power the trucks that bring organic vegetables to your dinner table." Microsoft: For the Children.

Ziploc baggies? That is PR amatuer hour. You've got to talk about making the plastic that premature baby incubators are made out of. Remember, it can't just be for kids, it has to be saving kids.

How about the plastics used in pacemakers (cue story about four-year-old Jimmy and his pacemaker)

Re: What is the worst thing about working at Microsoft?

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> Wait, Microsoft makes chairs? No, not directly. But the part of that chair? Manufactured in facilities running on, you guess it, Microsoft software. Transported in trucks built by Microsoft software, on roads built by Microsoft software, sold by companies running Microsoft software. The whole premise of this paragraph is wrong. Yes, most big businesses run Microsoft Windows, but most people hate and struggle with i…

So in other words, they make chairs, despite being forced to use awful, expensive software? I, too, thought this. Actually, this puts a whole new perspective on the "Microsoft tax". Everything we do in life has been "taxed" by Microsoft. The argument is specious: you could be sitting on a chair that was sold for less money. You might be working in a more spacious building if better software was in use. You'd probably…

> You'd probably be paid more money if the costs for IT weren't so high. Note I don't actually believe any of those things...

I do, from first hand experience: we're developing insurance pro software, and also have an all in one hosted solution, where we handle everything for the customer (from storage to configuration to backup), we set up an IPsec link and they just connect via TS. The product, which has a codebase that organically evolved during 10 years (resulting in DWTF worthy stuff), solves a number of real problems for our customers and in spite of the warts and bugs, they do like the product. It's hosted on Windows machines, including Office and whatnot. The growing MS license costs are currently driving the hosting solution out of business. We know first hand that alternative solutions (like a hypothetic port to Linux) would have cleared enough money to hire two developers, and get rid of a dedicated MS sysadmin (so that makes three full-time engineer jobs). And we're not even talking about moving to a web-based solution, which would cost a fraction of that again (and we know that because we're developing and hosting web stuff too).

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