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4chan and Youtube comments are part of the internet. The ghetto parts, to be specific. The 4chan-style scum and villainy gets concentrated at 4chan, the Youtube-style tomfoolery stays on Youtube, and the rest of us can sit in our small splinter forums and have discussions without somebody yelling about how 9/11 was an inside job (WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!) or posting pictures of naked underage anime characters. There have a…
I can't offer the link (reddit is blocked on my computer :D ) but the WAKE UP SHEEPLE guy was one of the best and most useful trolls I have ever seen. Look for his "good bye" post - the guy was way over the average, and not just as a troll.
Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
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Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#42My favorite line: "...the [social media] experiment seems to have yielded a result. Idiots rule."
Idiots rule our countries. Why would online be any different?
(Not being snide - wherever you look, politicians seem to unfailingly be raping and making a mockery of the democratic system. I may be slightly more cynical than usual as we discussed Berlusconi at lunch today, though).
Does anyone have good real-world examples of the the kind of communities we would like to see online? I'd like to hope that degeneration into idiocracy as communities grow is not some kind of natural law.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#43Am I the only one that gets a little pissy thinking that this is nothing but pure content thievery? There was a sum total TWO paragraphs of OC there - the rest was a re-post of Trent's entire post. A link would have sufficed. A couple of quotes would've been fine but the whole post? That's content theft as far as I'm concerned.
> A link would have sufficed.
Maybe it was self protection against edits or deletion for the original post.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#44It's a shame that he quits, as he is one of those few people who could make it work. When he quits, it's almost like "game over" for the medium.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
You wouldn't expect Lionel Ritchie to experience the same thing if he emulated Reznor online. Well, having been on the receiving end of something I thought I'd share my experience. There are raving lunatic fans all around the place, regardless of what genre the artists are in. During the campaign to get Rick Astley voted as Best Act Ever for last years MTV Europe Music Awards, I started receiving large volumes of hat…
Mark, how come your blog's empty? Something to do with those fans?
Mark, how come your blog's empty? Something to do with those fans?
No, nothing like that.
I did have the intention of writing some essays on the site (I really just registered the domain to have my name as a TLD and for the email) but I've been working on my startup, so really haven't made the time to write essays.
It's not really a priority right now, whereas the startup is.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#46Funny, I just saw him play tonight. He always puts on a good show. He's from Pittsburgh and we got a particularly good setlist. http://twitter.com/trent_reznor/status/2049368290 probably sums up Trent's feelings in a tweet.
Anonymity isn't the problem. The problem is that Trent's mind still cares enough about what other people think of him that it is consumed by the act of surveying his status and trying to please the please-able. That's a dead end. Instead, I suggest that at least on a personal level, we should let go and try to realize that nothing* really matters online. As you begin to welcome anonymity, a certain type of apathy app…
There are many kinds of trolls. Most can easily be ignored, but there are many that can't. Two that spring to mind are the persistent attention takers (switching or maintaining multiple identities as necessary) that amount to a DOS attack, and those who are able to look like signal for a long time before it becomes clear they're just trolls.
In other words, not caring what trolls say is necessary but not sufficient.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anonymity isn't the problem. The problem is that Trent's mind still cares enough about what other people think of him that it is consumed by the act of surveying his status and trying to please the please-able. That's a dead end. Instead, I suggest that at least on a personal level, we should let go and try to realize that nothing* really matters online. As you begin to welcome anonymity, a certain type of apathy app…
There are many kinds of trolls. Most can easily be ignored, but there are many that can't. Two that spring to mind are the persistent attention takers (switching or maintaining multiple identities as necessary) that amount to a DOS attack, and those who are able to look like signal for a long time before it becomes clear they're just trolls. In other words, not caring what trolls say is necessary but not sufficient.
And I get that. We (in our apps) have captchas, crapflood limits, banning, etc. that Trent doesn't have IRL.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#48Funny, I just saw him play tonight. He always puts on a good show. He's from Pittsburgh and we got a particularly good setlist. http://twitter.com/trent_reznor/status/2049368290 probably sums up Trent's feelings in a tweet.
Anonymity isn't the problem. The problem is that Trent's mind still cares enough about what other people think of him that it is consumed by the act of surveying his status and trying to please the please-able. That's a dead end. Instead, I suggest that at least on a personal level, we should let go and try to realize that nothing* really matters online. As you begin to welcome anonymity, a certain type of apathy app…
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Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#49Am I the only one that gets a little pissy thinking that this is nothing but pure content thievery? There was a sum total TWO paragraphs of OC there - the rest was a re-post of Trent's entire post. A link would have sufficed. A couple of quotes would've been fine but the whole post? That's content theft as far as I'm concerned.
Although Trent Reznor is not some poor blogger needing ad revenue and so he probably wouldn't mind his missives being rebroadcast verbatim.
Re: Trent Reznor Quits Web 2.0, Offers Cutting Advice To Haters
#50My favorite line: "...the [social media] experiment seems to have yielded a result. Idiots rule."
It's not that social media has failed but rather Trent is realizing that his audience contains many antisocial malcontents and now he's recoiling in horror.