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Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by benologist »

WithTeeth wrote: post #30
showsover wrote: post #26

What value does this add to a local IDE? With my local IDE I can still program when the internet (or any one hop between my pc and your servers) goes down. A friend invited me to his workspace and all I got was an email containing the following: > Code with me on https://friendco.de

This is not the place for debating the value of cloud IDEs - they're out there, whether this one, cloud9, koding, or codeanywhere. This is the place to provide feedback on this particular product within that category. Let's not reinforce the stereotype of HN commenters if possible.

This is exactly the place to debate the value of a product we're being shown. That feedback is far more valuable than what the OP will get if we dismiss the business model as taboo. There are negative ramifications to using online-only software, that's not the same as a negative comment.

Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by jmsduran »

showsover wrote: post #26

What value does this add to a local IDE? With my local IDE I can still program when the internet (or any one hop between my pc and your servers) goes down. A friend invited me to his workspace and all I got was an email containing the following: > Code with me on https://friendco.de

As a developer who also programs as a hobby, I dislike having to manually download, install, and configure each framework/platform I want to experiment with. With cloud IDEs like Cloud9, everything is already configured for me and just works.

For my side projects I find this workflow particularly awesome: pull project from GitHub, program in a C9 workspace, and push to Heroku when ready. My development environment is not limited to a physical workstation, and no time is wasted hassling over configuration issues.

Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by shawabawa3 »

davexunit wrote: post #38
shawabawa3 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please use a free editor instead. I recommend Emacs. Vim is fine, too. Why? I have tried a huge number of editors including vim and emacs. Sublime is by far my favourite, but I shouldn't use it because it isn't FOSS? Fuck that

>but I shouldn't use it because it isn't FOSS? Yes. >Fuck that Have fun when it's no longer supported in a year or two.

> Have fun when it's no longer supported in a year or two.

..or 10, or 20. Or until it's open sourced

The developer has said multiple times that if it ever comes to a point where he no longer wants to develop it he'll open source it.

Either way, it's the best editor right now for me. If it stopped being supported today, it would still be the best editor for me. I will continue to use it until it isn't.

Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by davexunit »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #44
davexunit wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but I shouldn't use it because it isn't FOSS? Yes. >Fuck that Have fun when it's no longer supported in a year or two.

> Have fun when it's no longer supported in a year or two. ..or 10, or 20. Or until it's open sourced The developer has said multiple times that if it ever comes to a point where he no longer wants to develop it he'll open source it. Either way, it's the best editor right now for me. If it stopped being supported today, it would still be the best editor for me. I will continue to use it until it isn't.

The main problem is that the developers do not respect your freedom. When there are plentiful free replacements, I see no reason to use proprietary software.

Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by shawabawa3 »

davexunit wrote: post #46
shawabawa3 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have fun when it's no longer supported in a year or two. ..or 10, or 20. Or until it's open sourced The developer has said multiple times that if it ever comes to a point where he no longer wants to develop it he'll open source it. Either way, it's the best editor right now for me. If it stopped being supported today, it would still be the best editor for me. I will continue to use it until it isn't.

The main problem is that the developers do not respect your freedom. When there are plentiful free replacements, I see no reason to use proprietary software.

> The main problem is that the developers do not respect your freedom.

Now I just feel like I'm getting trolled.

Doesn't he have the freedom to market his software however he wants? It's not like I'm being forced to use his software, I'm not even forced to pay to use his software (the trial is so unobtrusive that I used it for a year before paying).

Re: Show HN: FriendCode – Reinventing coding with the cloud

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Post by denshadeds »

Before I say goodbye to my editor, here are a few features that are critical, but sadly are missing:

- Debug break points. Yes, I can't live without a debugger. - Follow a signature to its implementation/declaration, usually by clicking on it. - Auto completion. I refuse to work without this. - Refactor tools, I've loved these tools since the 90's. - Code generation like getters/setters. ...

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