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Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by ris »

6cxs2hd6 wrote: post #143
mrbill wrote: post #98

Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

Also you can quickly wipe the thing before entering a situation where it might get lost/stolen/confiscated [1]. Then take 5 minutes to set it up again on the other end. [1]: Such as: - A sketchy neighborhood - Leaving it at home while you're away for a long time - Customs/border (where 4th amendment is N/A) - Non-border transfer at LHR (e.g. David Miranda)

> - Non-border transfer at LHR (e.g. David Miranda)

No, in this case the authorities would have asked google to seize/snoop on your account ages ago, so they wouldn't need to bother.

ChromeOS may be the right answer in some cases, but secure against authorities it is not - please don't kid yourself.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by lispm »

alrs wrote: post #7

Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

Weird, I would hope that for a company which requires me to leave my data on NSA servers.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by pkulak »

seiji wrote: post #159
cdash wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Native Client

Pickle Boots. (I can say two words one after another too.) Does a technology exist if nobody writes anything for it?

No one has written the next Photoshop yet, but the apps that need NaCl are using it. The SSH client, for example, which works great and actually lets me get a lot of work done from my Chromebook without even turning on developer mode.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by jmduke »

omni wrote: post #160
netcan wrote: post #132

I'm so frustrated by these chromebooks. On one hand, the form factor and aesthetics are great. The price/power engineering is great. The mission/concept is fantastic. On the other hand, we've learned something from Android/IOS. We need apps and they do not necessarily lead to a computer that cannot be managed by a below average user. Even the average 'your mother' has some needs that aren't well met by this machine.…

Skype has a competitor called Google Hangouts that works just fine in the browser. Word has a competitor called Google Docs that works just fine in the browser. Desktop-only apps need to adapt or get left behind.

There are a great number of non-trivial use cases for which Google Docs is inferior compared to Word.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by InTheSwiss »

itsameta4 wrote: post #146
InTheSwiss wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I have been wanting to pick a Chromebook up for exactly the same thing. I can imagine Arch with Awesome being great on one but it seems Google have made it a pain in the ass to get rid of Chrome OS and stick something else on. While I live in my browser I still work in a text editor/IDE and need a terminal with GCC and other bits. Lenovo have some nice portable machines but, like you said about the Sony, they ar…

>at $500 or less You might be interested in our 2016 models.

Ok I am pushing it a bit with the 128GB SSD but if you stick a standard HDD in there they should be able to keep it at £500 or less quite easily. There are similar spec machines in the 15" range from Acer and others for that sort of price it would just mean scaling down to 13" :)

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by xur17 »

Touche wrote: post #142
phaus wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can understand buying a Chromebook instead of a Macbook Air, but I see lots of people saying that they have both yet still prefer the Chromebook. What is it that makes a Chromebook so much better than a Macbook that has vastly superior construction, better battery life, and significantly more power? The Macbook air is small enough to take anywhere, and let me assure you, people will steal anything. Didn't Stallman'…

For me personally Chrome OS is that compelling, that is what I like about Chromebooks. The browser, where I live 90% of the time on computers, is the default view in Chrome OS. And I get an extremely secure OS that acts as a dummy terminal to more powerful computers.

Exactly. I do all of my development in vim on a vm hosted elsewhere. A chromebook seems like the perfect 'dumb-terminal' for what I need. I'm mostly concerned about the screen resolution, so I'm tempted by the pixel, but it's more than I want to spend.

Basically, I love the concept of a computer that I don't have to setup, worry about backing up, etc. By using a remote VM, I get access to a more powerful machine that is backed up daily, and I won't misplace. This is the main advantage of "the cloud" (or whatever you want to call it) to me.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by jakebellacera »

phaus wrote: post #130
mrbill wrote: post #98

Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

I can understand buying a Chromebook instead of a Macbook Air, but I see lots of people saying that they have both yet still prefer the Chromebook. What is it that makes a Chromebook so much better than a Macbook that has vastly superior construction, better battery life, and significantly more power? The Macbook air is small enough to take anywhere, and let me assure you, people will steal anything. Didn't Stallman'…

I personally couldn't bring myself to switch to a Chromebook. My personal time on the computer constitutes ~25% coding and ~75% in the browser. If I did not code, ever, then I would probably invest in a Chromebook. Since I do, I'd prefer to have a Macbook Air or a similar machine.

My girlfriend, on the other hand, spends all of her time in the browser. All she does on the computer is write her papers, surfs the web and check her email/calendar. She could save nearly $700 by purchasing a Chromebook versus the 11" Macbook Air. The Chromebook fills a growing niche, the users who need more than a tablet, but less than a fully-blown desktop machine.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by clauretano »

netcan wrote: post #132

I'm so frustrated by these chromebooks. On one hand, the form factor and aesthetics are great. The price/power engineering is great. The mission/concept is fantastic. On the other hand, we've learned something from Android/IOS. We need apps and they do not necessarily lead to a computer that cannot be managed by a below average user. Even the average 'your mother' has some needs that aren't well met by this machine.…

Even if you're really that set on using Microsoft Word, you can use Office Web Apps with Skydrive.

On the Skype front, until WebRTC is mature enough (soon), Microsoft is stuck using browser plugins if they release a Skype Web App. I'd say chances are near zero that they'd have a Chromebook compatible plugin. Complaining that Skype doesn't work on ChromeOS is like complaining that there's no Google Hangouts app for Windows Phone. The market share is too small to be worth the effort, unfortunately.

Now if Google would only open up Hangouts to video bridging solutions like www.bluejeans.com, www.vidyo.com (which.. is the tech powering google hangouts video), etc.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by frou_dh »

mellamoyo wrote: post #4

Took me awhile for find - but full specs: Full specs Screen * 11.6" display with 16:9 aspect ratio (IPS Panel) * 1366 x 768 * 60% Color Gamut * 300 nit screen * Wide viewing angle (176 degree) Inputs * Chrome keyboard * Fine-tuned, clickable touchpad * VGA Webcam Ports * 2 x USB 2.0 * Micro-SIM slot (3G and 4G/LTE model only) * Micro USB for 15.75W charging and SlimPort video out Industrial design * Magnesium chassis…

Nice that it has an IPS panel!

I bought an 11" ThinkPad X131 but quickly returned it because the viewing angles were woeful. The hallmark of a garbage spec panel is noticeable vertical shift even when looking at it dead on.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by nine_k »

omni wrote: post #160
netcan wrote: post #132

I'm so frustrated by these chromebooks. On one hand, the form factor and aesthetics are great. The price/power engineering is great. The mission/concept is fantastic. On the other hand, we've learned something from Android/IOS. We need apps and they do not necessarily lead to a computer that cannot be managed by a below average user. Even the average 'your mother' has some needs that aren't well met by this machine.…

Skype has a competitor called Google Hangouts that works just fine in the browser. Word has a competitor called Google Docs that works just fine in the browser. Desktop-only apps need to adapt or get left behind.

Office360 should work well on a chromebook, too, fully supporting Word format.
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