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Freedom.

The fact that people have this perception makes me sad.

Is more dangerous the perception of freedom than the understanding of limits.

The best dictators spread the freedom mantra and the more gullible believe it.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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I'm so frustrated by these chromebooks.

On one hand, the form factor and aesthetics are great. The price/power engineering is great. The mission/concept is fantastic.

On the other hand, we've learned something from Android/IOS. We need apps and they do not necessarily lead to a computer that cannot be managed by a below average user. Even the average 'your mother' has some needs that aren't well met by this machine. Skype. Fill out this (Word) form and email it back to me.

I really want android/ios-like (ideally iOS simplicity with chromebook prices/hardware) computers to come out and solve computing for the many many people poorly served by cheap clunky windows laptops.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

Just curious, what are your use cases with it? I've been considering one as a cheap Linux dev box but it seems like installing a second OS is a pain and that there's little to no HD space left after doing so. I've been eyeing a Sony laptop that costs ~$370 bit it is quite bulky.

This. As much as I like Google, I've griped before that the Chromebook is a tempting but raw deal for a power user.

[1] You get a pretty locked down laptop that you have to boot into developer mode to do anything useful (which adds an additional 5-second boot time) [2] I'm a happy camper at setting up dual-boot systems with Windows laptops, but crouton sounds like a pain to me. [3] Limited disk space: I would think we would need at least a 64 GB or 128 GB SSD to do anything useful.

Note that I'm only speaking as a power-user. IMHO, the Chromebook is actually a great laptop for the older generation and people who use web-based products all the time ... but I do wish Google had put in some more though on how to make it useful for power users who need the Linux utilities as well as Eclipse, Thunderbird, and other X-based applications etc.

I really hate having to buy a good laptop that has Windows pre-installed and having to wipe it out just to install Ubuntu/variants, but it still is my only choice at this point. (Yes, I realize there are companies that produce pre-installed Linux laptops, but their build quality doesn't compare to the HP/Dell/Asus/Samsung kind.)

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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This thing being blatantly aimed at the education market, Google really need to do the unthinkable and let people host their own server backends to support these devices, otherwise they're simply data sucking machines. That their own educational programming environment runs on a RaspPi and can't be hosted on a Chromebook speaks volumes. And I have a Chromebook, which I'll freely admit is brilliant for many things, bu…

Huh? It's a web browser. Anyone can "host their own server backends" to whatever extent they desire.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Just curious, what are your use cases with it? I've been considering one as a cheap Linux dev box but it seems like installing a second OS is a pain and that there's little to no HD space left after doing so. I've been eyeing a Sony laptop that costs ~$370 bit it is quite bulky.

Seems like your best bet would be an Intel Chromebook like the Acer C7 - you can easily swap the SSD with bigger one, add RAM and install XFCE/Unity using one of the many options. It has fans though and you will notice those! And the battery life isn't stellar. But at least it is cheap and relatively light weight and comes with USB ports.

The Acer C720 actually looks quite nice although AFAICT you still can't wipe and install your own OS? You have to use the same methods as we currently have like crouton.

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Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

I prefer that there be competition between a variety choices for OS and platforms. I don't wish for any of them to go away.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

I can understand buying a Chromebook instead of a Macbook Air, but I see lots of people saying that they have both yet still prefer the Chromebook. What is it that makes a Chromebook so much better than a Macbook that has vastly superior construction, better battery life, and significantly more power? The Macbook air is small enough to take anywhere, and let me assure you, people will steal anything. Didn't Stallman'…

I think I could do about 80% of my online life with something like a Chromebook (I'm also looking forward to seeing what the ASUS T100 is all about). I just want something light to take with me for some note taking, email, watching videos, surfing the web. Mostly what I'd use a tablet for, except I need a keyboard to effectively communicate on the web. Some remoting to servers, etc....

I have a full 15" MBPRo, and it'd be nice to not lug that around on the weekends and such.

But then again, maybe we just get a Surface Pro 2 (or similar) and replace everything.

So many choices with how to manage your technology lifestyle now.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

I can understand buying a Chromebook instead of a Macbook Air, but I see lots of people saying that they have both yet still prefer the Chromebook. What is it that makes a Chromebook so much better than a Macbook that has vastly superior construction, better battery life, and significantly more power? The Macbook air is small enough to take anywhere, and let me assure you, people will steal anything. Didn't Stallman'…

You can actually replace 1 Macbook Air with 4 Chromebooks

But more generally, most of the things most people do on a laptop can be (or are) done in the browser. You can even do image and video editing in the browser nowadays, as well as programming.

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