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Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by Khao » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:00 PM UTC

Newky wrote: post #16

This is interesting timing, as I am really considering purchasing a chromebook. There are a few things that I am still curious about: 1. does netflix work ? I know that there was some chromebooks that it did not work on. 2. Any one have any experience with playing flash videos? 3. If linux is put onto it using crouton or similar, is it a severly limit set of packages due to the architecture or does it run quiet well.…

I was in the US last month and went into a best buy to test out the latest Samsung Chromebook (using a similir ARM-based chip that the HP Chromebook 11 does) and I was surprised to find out that Flash worked incredibly well on it! I own one of the first intel-based chromebooks (also from Samsung, I don't remember the exact model name) and Flash is choppy, but on the new ARM-based chromebooks, it's great! And also, Netflix announced a couple months ago that they were planning on releasing an ARM-compatible chrome extension for Chromebooks. I don't know if it has been released or not yet, as it isn't compatible with my chromebook I think.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by zobzu » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:01 PM UTC

alrs wrote: post #43

harigov wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would you hope for something like that? what do you gain if Windows/iOS/OSX go broke?

Google isn't a shining beacon of hope, but I do delight in seeing hurt put on closed ecosystems. The Apple app store is a flat-out threat to human freedom. I do not want to live in a world where the only software available is the software approved by Apple and the governments that have jurisdiction over it. edit: Note that I take no warmth in it being Google. Yes, they are closed. The good news is that HP just offere…

ChromeOS is pretty much closed. You don't have a say on what goes in, you don't have a say on what they're going to do with it, you don't have a say if they want to fully close most of it. In fact, you can only see the parts they let you see (in ChromiumOS), and that is the only difference with Apple or Microsoft (albeit arguyably, Apple also open sources it's kernel)

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by omgmog » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:01 PM UTC

Would be interesting to give one of these a go as my daily driver, getting sick of lugging around a heavy 2011 Macbook Pro!

I wonder what the options are like out of the box for development, or if this will work http://afaqdar.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/5-different-chromebook...

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by jkscm » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:02 PM UTC

alrs wrote: post #43

harigov wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would you hope for something like that? what do you gain if Windows/iOS/OSX go broke?

Google isn't a shining beacon of hope, but I do delight in seeing hurt put on closed ecosystems. The Apple app store is a flat-out threat to human freedom. I do not want to live in a world where the only software available is the software approved by Apple and the governments that have jurisdiction over it. edit: Note that I take no warmth in it being Google. Yes, they are closed. The good news is that HP just offere…

Which one of Google's services is not a closed system?

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by eob » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:03 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #10

These things are getting increasingly more tempting. I'm actually in the market for something to give my parents, but I actually think an 11" screen is too small for them. 13" might be more like it, but in all honesty they probably still need a 15" machine. But I'm getting increasingly close to picking up one of these just for the hell of it.

I'm typing on a 11" Samsung Chromebook right now and love it, though I never would have expected to be reporting that a year ago. At $140 for a refurbished model, I can take it on trips and not worry about theft.

The biggest trade-off is that I have to keep some of my number-crunching on a server that I ssh into, which does limit working from trains/planes/busses/etc.

My biggest gripe is that the method I'm using to run a proper linux environment (Crouton) creates a startup situation that risks blowing away my hard drive image if anyone but me opens the laptop and follows the "Press the Spacebar to exit Developer Mode" (or whatever it says) message.

I really hope Google realizes they've got a community of programmers using Chromebooks as trip-friendly development machines and creates proper support for dual booting (or chrooting) into linux.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by trsohmers » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:03 PM UTC

aperture wrote: post #47

Woah, this is the kind of developing book I'd like: 6 hrs battery life IPS viewing display (without 1080p!) Mirousb universal charging cable 11 inch portability, weighing only 2lbs. I have the acer c7 chromebook, and am really fustrated I can't simply trade it in for this chromebook. It really is one of the most appealing deals. HN has also recently been talking about crouton, which I found very usable. The biggest i…

Why would you want an Intel chip in here? Would you rather get worse performance with half of the battery life? The only reason I can imagine is for installing linux and having the endless number of x86 precompiled applications. Even if that is the case, Ubuntu's ARM repositories have grown tremendously and ARM support is getting significantly better every kernel release. Plus, anything that isn't precompiled, you can always build yourself.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by teamonkey » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:03 PM UTC

dagman wrote: post #19

Looks very similar to the old plastic MacBook. And 60% Color Gamut? 60% of what? NTSC? sRGB? Adobe RGB?

> Looks very similar to the old plastic MacBook.

Not a bad thing, IMO.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by personalcompute » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:04 PM UTC

j0hnb wrote: post #45

ihsw wrote: post #3

Only available in the UK and US. How unfortunate. Following the link for the US to Amazon, the HP Chromebook is nowhere to be seen on the resulting page. http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=2858603011

It's there just on the see more models page. http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-11-6-Inch-Chromebook-11-11... The price is listed as $385 which is far from the google stated $279

It's $233.89 according to that Amazon link, the $385 is crossed out.

Edit: The price has dramatically changed since both of us viewed the page. My comment is no longer valid. The current 7:50AM PST 10/8/13 price is $279.99.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by zobzu » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:04 PM UTC

Khao wrote: post #27

jl00080 wrote: post #9

serious work=>Laptop, casual work=>tablet, ? => chromebook

I have a chromebook at home and it has replaced my "serious" laptop almost entirely. Everything I do at home other than games can be done on the chromebook and it's so light and fast to boot I don't bother even opening a browser on my big laptop. Everything done in the browser gets done on my chromebook and only when I want to play games / use windows-only software do I boot up my other laptop.

I'd suppose you have the $1000+ chromebook, not the sub $300 ;-)

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Post by dataminded » Tue, Oct 08, 2013, 2:04 PM UTC

Does '2GB (4x 4Gbit) DDR3 RAM' mean that it can grow to 16gb of ram? Under those conditions I would seriously consider getting it and running crouton.