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Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

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I think Nuclear Fusion is the single most exciting up-and-coming technology. I can't believe we're not throwing a hundred billion dollars at it. Make fusion, not war.

Right, but what's its viral coefficient? How can we get it as a mobile app?

I'm torn. Should we focus on gamifying it or making it web-scale?

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

#32

This is awesome news - I visited the NIF a few months ago and they seemed a little downtrodden when asked about results. I bet they're all cocky now! They also told us that the lasers they use, if built with modern tech today, would actually only be the size of a 40' cargo container (as opposed to like 100K sq-ft building), and cost like 1000x less. Pretty epic... If we invested in fusion power like we did water powe…

This is so cool. I almost can't believe that such incremental tech development would be applicable to fusion research. But there you have it. Now we just have to throw a few more billions at the problem. If the costs really have come down this dramatically, it is very promising indeed.

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

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tl;dr - Another article about the US nuclear weapons research facility at Lawrence Livermore, AKA NIF, and its sideshow 57th priority. On a related note. It's been really sad to see the US slowly lose its edge in plasma based fusion tech, specifically tokamaks, which seem to be the only credible long-term method of sustaining a fusion reaction for power-plant purposes.

Just a couple quibbles from a former NIF scientist. NIF is much higher on the priority list than that. LLNL is already in the doghouse due to NIF failing to ignite on schedule. As goes the 5 giga-buck NIF, so goes LLNL (and the management knows it). Technologically, I'd put inertial and magnetic fusion about the same place. Even if the physics works, neither has a chamber first wall material that can stand up to the…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_beta_fusion_reactor

What do you think of this?

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

#36
Ah, okay, cool!

I remember this being announced a while back, but I didn't understand why it was significant if the energy in was less than the energy out. This article helps to clear it up.

The missing piece was that I didn't understand how this reactor works. I thought they just blasted a lot of lasers directly at the hydrogen isotopes. Instead, it seems like that use the lasers to shoot something else, which then creates a lot of x-rays which actually start the reaction.

The significant thing here is that the energy produced is greater than the amount of energy coming in from the X-rays, but not the lasers which power those X-rays.

Is that correct? (Not surprisingly, I'm not a physicist!)

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

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Not much of a physicist myself but I am wondering if the technology developed for nuclear fusion would have any use in progressing other fields

I can think of two off the top of my head. Low temperature plasma processing (used in semiconductor fab) got it start as the-mess-created-when-a-plasma-confinement-experiment-fails. Adaptive optics were developed for high intensity lasers and are now used in telescopes.

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

#38

Producing net-energy is a different story than collecting net-energy. NIF just blows up a canister with a pellet and takes forever to reload a shot. On the other hand, an at-least-as-promising technology like Dense Plasma Focus ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_plasma_focus ) is still receiving minuscule funding. I'm hoping to be able to meaningfully support DPF and other fusion technologies soon. DPF has my atten…

LPP is planning a crowdfunding campaign for their DPF experiment, so you'll be able to support them soon if you like. http://www.lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/index.php?option=c...

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

#39

I think Nuclear Fusion is the single most exciting up-and-coming technology. I can't believe we're not throwing a hundred billion dollars at it. Make fusion, not war.

It has the word "nuclear" in it, so the crazies will hate it no matter what it is.

Just take the word "nuclear" out, like they did with Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Imaging. No one will ever suspect a thing ;)

Re: Nuclear fusion milestone passed at US lab

#40
If reliable fusion technology were developed, would the government share it with the public or would it be kept hidden away?

Sadly I'm not joking. I think there's a 50-50 chance that any cool science that gets development by the U.S. government just becomes a classified DoD missile project.

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