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U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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Re: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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Looks like the new arms race is about digging your own environmental grave.

I think the country that is going to win will be biggest exporter of clean water in about two decades. Meanwhile China makes more solar panels than anyone in the world yet has the most filthy air.

Check out Canada's share of the world's fresh water sometime...

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Commenters bemoaning US running out of resources sooner or ruining the environment by increasing usage should note that US oil demand has essentially peaked[1] and will likely drop in the coming years due to a variety of factors including demographics and the increasing viability of alternative energy sources (solar power + Tesla et. al.) In this context, the US gas/oil energy boom is a wonderful thing, a last hurrah…

Nearly every prominent climate scientist disagrees strongly with you, and sees the current move towards fracking as climate suicide.

Re: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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What do you mean by a fraction of it? The U.S. is a net importer of both oil and natural gas: http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_wkly_dc_NUS-Z00_mbblpd_... http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_ist_a2dcu_nus_a.htm

Those numbers are hard to follow but I do not understand why if we produce so much why we don't consume our own content? For example if the keystone pipeline was approved the majority of it would be for export, not domestic use.

Because the US consumes even more? The US is by far the biggest consumer. Saudi Arabia and Russia have quite small populations too, but the US is just very energy intensive.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those numbers are hard to follow but I do not understand why if we produce so much why we don't consume our own content? For example if the keystone pipeline was approved the majority of it would be for export, not domestic use.

Are you sure the majority of it would be for export? A big driver of exports is simply the fact that lots of places don't have refinery capacity. People in such places are willing to pay more than people in the U.S., with its relative abundance of refineries. The rest of the 'not consuming our own content' is just a logistics thing, the cheapest oil is generally used, not the oil that crosses the least borders.

Also, what's cheaper than using a currency which you have control over (read: ability to inflate; if one is in the camp that the conglomerate of national/international banks that own shares in the Federal Reserve act in unitarity with the USG) compared to most other countries, to import natural resources? One could call it free (if one doesn't factor the human beings on the other side of the equation...) Sure it can't last forever... but individuals don't last forever either.

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Commenters bemoaning US running out of resources sooner or ruining the environment by increasing usage should note that US oil demand has essentially peaked[1] and will likely drop in the coming years due to a variety of factors including demographics and the increasing viability of alternative energy sources (solar power + Tesla et. al.) In this context, the US gas/oil energy boom is a wonderful thing, a last hurrah…

Nearly every prominent climate scientist disagrees strongly with you, and sees the current move towards fracking as climate suicide.

I'm sure you have them, but since the parent commenter was nice enough to supply sources for his claims, perhaps you could as well?

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Commenters bemoaning US running out of resources sooner or ruining the environment by increasing usage should note that US oil demand has essentially peaked[1] and will likely drop in the coming years due to a variety of factors including demographics and the increasing viability of alternative energy sources (solar power + Tesla et. al.) In this context, the US gas/oil energy boom is a wonderful thing, a last hurrah…

I wouldn't say that oil demand has peaked from looking at that graph. I'd say it took a big hit right around the time of the 2008 financial crash and is recovering along with the rest of the economy, or perhaps lagging somewhat.

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Looks like the new arms race is about digging your own environmental grave.

If we want to limit climate change to +2°C, we must leave 80% of hydrocarbons into the ground. This option is not showing in the prices of energy companies. It's just not going to happen.

Hopefully the demise of our species will be quick and relatively painless, then.

Re: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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But it costs more to produce here. Most oil wells in Texas for example are now fairly low volume and require a lot of expense to pump. The Saudi wells are so high volume they spend almost nothing to get the oil out. Also the Saudis generally control the output to keep the price high. If they wanted to they could flood the world with oil.

Gas is a different story but currently the price is pretty low compared to oil.

Re: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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post #5

Looks like the new arms race is about digging your own environmental grave.

If we want to limit climate change to +2°C, we must leave 80% of hydrocarbons into the ground. This option is not showing in the prices of energy companies. It's just not going to happen.

On the bright side, forecasters that rely on computer models of massive systems often end up making horribly inaccurate predictions. For example, we usually get tomorrow's weather wrong.

Re: U.S. is now the world’s biggest oil and gas producer

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post #5

Looks like the new arms race is about digging your own environmental grave.

I think the country that is going to win will be biggest exporter of clean water in about two decades. Meanwhile China makes more solar panels than anyone in the world yet has the most filthy air.

I wonder what prevents the use of "salt water" for fracking? We have an abundant supply of that resource; maybe prevents the oceans from rising too! (I am joking)
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