Programming is a Terrible Job • Hacker News Board

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by leoc » Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 6:28 PM UTC

tjr wrote: post #130

leoc wrote: post #83

> Sometimes I also think if it would be different if I was born several decades earlier. Check out section 7.6 of Phil Greenspun's SITE CONTROLLER thesis http://philip.greenspun.com/research/tr1408/complete.pdf . It seems there has long been plenty of undesirable programming work (anyone for in-house COBOL?) but a BS in CS may have been a more reliable route to interesting work before the PC software industry.

I see no section 7.6. [EDIT: Section 6.6 looks potentially relevant to the conversation.]

Sorry, that should read 7.4.

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by tjr » Wed, Oct 02, 2013, 7:20 PM UTC

leoc wrote: post #291

tjr wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see no section 7.6. [EDIT: Section 6.6 looks potentially relevant to the conversation.]

Sorry, that should read 7.4.

Thanks!

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by acuozzo » Thu, Oct 03, 2013, 4:04 PM UTC

mixmastamyk wrote: post #153

acuozzo wrote: post #117

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> Find a better job. Sure! Can you provide for my family while I do?

It doesn't take much time at all to look for a job if you spread the tasks over a year. Sounds like an excuse to me.

Read my reply to _sh.

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by BuckRogers » Sun, Oct 06, 2013, 1:51 AM UTC

acuozzo wrote: post #287

_sh wrote: post #233

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Why can't you? It's not like you have to quit your current job to find a better one. My advice to anyone who doesn't like their job: please don't come to work in a shitty mood all the time, bitch and moan, and spread your poison around. You don't have to love your job, but quit making excuses and being lazy and go get yourself one you will love.

> Why can't you? It's not like you have to quit your current job to find a better one. Finding a job I love would require me to change my career and–in the best case–would most certainly offer a starting salary that's far less than I need, given my current financial responsibilities (e.g., my family and $130K in private student loan debt). Furthermore, I would most likely have to earn another Bachelor's degree. See w…

Not going to really try to refute your claims, but it sounds like you're making it as difficult as possible. For one I highly doubt you'd have to earn another bachelors degree. There has to be another way..

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by eru » Mon, Oct 07, 2013, 11:24 AM UTC

z999 wrote: post #288

wicknicks wrote: post #214

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> The world is wide open to you. In the United States probably. The author doesn't sound too old, and says that he/she got access to the internet much later. Which means the author is probably from the Middle east or China or South Asia. The work culture there is not as open as in the west. Daily job means monotonous routine work. What excited him about the prime numbers problem was the novel aspect of it, and the fa…

Then move. To a different city or a different country. It is a very difficult thing to do but you shouldn't be miserable for a third of your day! Get yourself some good skills and apply to jobs you really think you want instead of whatever the local industry has to offer.

Yes, though actually moving isn't all that hard compared to all the other things you do one a daily basis.

Re: Programming is a Terrible Job

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Post by acuozzo » Wed, Oct 09, 2013, 1:56 PM UTC

BuckRogers wrote: post #294

acuozzo wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why can't you? It's not like you have to quit your current job to find a better one. Finding a job I love would require me to change my career and–in the best case–would most certainly offer a starting salary that's far less than I need, given my current financial responsibilities (e.g., my family and $130K in private student loan debt). Furthermore, I would most likely have to earn another Bachelor's degree. See w…

Not going to really try to refute your claims, but it sounds like you're making it as difficult as possible. For one I highly doubt you'd have to earn another bachelors degree. There has to be another way..

So, are you trying to say that I can become an Archaeologist with only a BS in CS?

Also, how can I fulfill my financial obligations with an entry-level job in Archaeology?