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How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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Re: How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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Other wonderful delivery methods:

- Baked into cuneiform

- Wax tablets. "Oh, sorry, it got hot in my car and they're a little runny..."

- In the form of a crossword puzzle.

- Knitted into a scarf. "Perl one, skip two..."

Best to have hardware from which it is impossible to export a key.

Re: How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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>>"To make use of these keys, the FBI would have to manually input all 2,560 characters, and one incorrect keystroke in this laborious process would render the FBI collection system incapable of collecting decrypted data," prosecutors complained.

That's pretty misleading - they make it sound like if they press the wrong key once it'll destroy the FBI's entire system.

Re: How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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How can you not love this guy? Please donate to his defense fund: http://tinyurl.com/m65n4ko http://lavabit.com/ Lavabit Legal Defense Fund 10387 Main Street, Suite 205 Fairfax, VA 22030 (703) 291-1999

Because, if this article is correct[0], his refusal to obey a court order is the only reason the FBI made him hand over private keys.

The story is the FBI asked for Snowden's emails and correspondence. Lavabit said they would not hand over the information(but admitted they had the technical capability ... it was server side encryption after all). Only after that refusal did the FBI start taking more drastic action.

This is, if that story is true, about on par with a Bank complaining that the FBI ransacked the safe all their safety deposit boxes were stored in. Expect the bank neglects to mention that the only reason the FBI had to break open the safe and be put in the position of being able easily break open all the safety deposit boxes was because the Bank failed to to hand over one box when given a valid court order.

This is particularly problematic in Lavabit's case because a major cornerstone of the argument against the NSA's warrantless surveillance is that there are legal means to compel access to data when it is actually necessary and that those means make it totally illegal to do what the NSA was doing. This is really a hard point to argue when those means don't work because other's thumb their nose at the law as well.

[0] http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/10/lavabit_unsealed/

Re: How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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How can you not love this guy? Please donate to his defense fund: http://tinyurl.com/m65n4ko http://lavabit.com/ Lavabit Legal Defense Fund 10387 Main Street, Suite 205 Fairfax, VA 22030 (703) 291-1999

Because, if this article is correct[0], his refusal to obey a court order is the only reason the FBI made him hand over private keys. The story is the FBI asked for Snowden's emails and correspondence. Lavabit said they would not hand over the information(but admitted they had the technical capability ... it was server side encryption after all). Only after that refusal did the FBI start taking more drastic action. T…

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Re: How Snowden's Email Provider Tried To Foil The FBI Using Tiny Font

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Not totally related: It remind me of the case of "Free" a French ISP, they were forced like others ISP to send to the government the customer information related to IPs caught on P2P networks [0]. But the law did not specified how the data had to be sent, so to troll the government they sent everything by fax. And the volume was around multiple thousand queries a day. [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HADOPI_law

The govt after receiving the fax : http://thehacktory.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/office-spa...
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