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LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by danielharan »

anandkulkarni wrote: post #24
7Figures2Commas wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

B2B is a very general term. While some B2B companies sell their products and services broadly (Stripe and Zenefits are good examples of this), many others are vertically-focused. I'd be curious to know if you have provided your service to vertically-focused companies and, if so, which verticals you have experience with.

Certainly. Finance, insurance, software development, and real estate have been four verticals that have been particularly common.

So - you can get leads for software development consultants? That could easily be worth $800/mo.

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by ovoxo »

prayag wrote: post #69
ovoxo wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although this sounds like a decent idea, the challenge with it is that you're assuming a couple of things: 1) The start-up acquiring the lead list has the ability to progress the deals to closure. 2) The start-up acquiring the lead list is able to appropriately break-down their revenue in an easily audit-able/non-modifiable manner to demonstrate which $ came from the acquired lead list(s). This type of thing may be a…

Excellent points: >1) The start-up acquiring the lead list has the ability to progress the deals to closure. We help start-ups figure out a process for doing sales. Most start-ups have some idea of how they want to do their sales and we fine tune the process with them. >2) The start-up acquiring the lead list is able to appropriately break-down their revenue in an easily audit-able/non-modifiable manner to demonstrat…

Hey Prayag,

Wasn't implying that your service doesn't provide benefits. I actually believe the exact opposite to be true.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense for you guys to do a revenue split based on how many of the leads closed since you would then be 100% reliant on the lead list purchaser's ability to close the deals (and track each dollar received from the leads).

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by ceelee »

AznHisoka wrote: post #64
asah wrote: post #59

We've been using another ex-YC company http://hiplead.com/ which uses more algorithms and less outsourcing, and they've totally kicked ass for us-- that screenshot on their homepage is from us. I'm ex-google eng and know my way around AdWords, and hiplead clobbered it. I'm curious if anybody's tried both?

I'm very curious now that I've seen that screenshot. Can you tell us roughly what the emails they sent where like? What kind of template, how much personalization, etc?

Hi, I'm a founder of Hiplead. To answer your question, personalization and tight targeting are our top priorities. Our platform allows us to generate emails from nearly any online source, so we can create campaigns first, then find leads fit the copy- - resulting in very high conversion rates. Leads come along with social data and we focus on leads that are in your networks first.

Shoot me an email at conor@autotrophic.org or signup at hiplead.com and I'll gladly fill you in on the details.

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by kiddz »

prayag wrote: post #57
kiddz wrote: post #55

I was close to signing up, until I went to the about page; isn't this a pivot/spinoff from a VA service you guys launched several months ago. I tried that, and was not too impressed by the research. This seems like taking the VA system and just charging a lot more. I'm assuming that "Lead Geniuses" are non-usa based?

We do have a VA service but with different crowd (these people are good at sales leads). The problem you didn't get good results was because general VAs aren't really an expert at sales leads and outreach. And that's the reason we have raised the prices because general VA prices won't work for sales and lead experts. The LeadGeniuses are both US and non-US based. A general rule of thumb is that people who do outreach…

Sure. . . will send an email. But just a point of advice, even at $800 per month, that is quite an investment in faith when there are not any profiles of "lead geniuses." And as many folks who do sales, it generally takes a nuanced understanding of your industry to generate leads. Any lead that is easily attainable by any other competitor, is not too valuable.

It would be great to have real profiles of the teams/individuals who are the "lead geniuses." Or offer something like the first 10 leads are risk-free.

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by prawn »

gberger wrote: post #66

I don't understand the plans. The cheapest plan, for instance, is $800/mo for 20hr/week of lead research. Are these 20hr/week time that a real employee of LeadGenius is using to my services? If that's the case, it translates to $1600/mo for 40hr/week -- a 20k salary for the employee?

Which could be a decent salary for an offshore virtual assistant with a focus on leads?

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by alecsmart1 »

You would probably want to know that when you Google "leadgenius" or "lead genius", your site does not show in the first 20 results (atleast). You may want to improve your SEO, if you want to be found. It took me a good ten minutes but not before reaching another similar site- leadsgenie.us

Re: LeadGeni.us: User acquisition as a service

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Post by hristiank »

I'm very worried this is just a "pivot" for MobileWorks to offer VAs at much higher prices. It sounds awfully like hiring overseas "talent" (cheap labor) to SPAM people into buying/trying/testing. They are actively emailing their database looking for people to actually do the service. http://d.pr/i/qn17 I highly doubt the interests of LeadGeni.us align with your company's interest. If you want to do things that do not scale fine. Just do it by yourself. Do not expect you can hire people to do it.
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