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The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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It does matter what passion you pursue. The right passion will drive you to get better. The passion for just getting along with people who don't give a toss will leave you utterly dissatisfied, physically tense, and miserable. It takes some experience in experiencing how poorly dispassionate and, inevitably, disappointed, people can be to be sunk in this. You may want to read this - http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-…

> If you have more time, read His Dark Materials by Philip Pullman.

I read them couple of times when I was a teenager, but I can't make the connection here.

Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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post #10

If I'm unhappy with work conditions -- be it bad management, burden of unmanageable technical debt, incompatible culture or the mundane problem of low pay -- I am expected to `vote with my feet'. It's market self-regulation, it's feedback for the organization and it just works . If I refrain, for any misguided reason, it only makes market suboptimal. Does OP really advocate skewing the job market for some fuzzy reaso…

>If the clueless middle-management wastes 90% of your effort, there's more benefit to humanity when you move

Yes, thank you for this statement. I don't think many people yet realize how much more detrimental to society so much bureaucratic bullshit in everything we do(are) is over a few hackers getting fed up with that same bureaucratic bullshit and moving on.

In fact, put that way it really does not seem logical to get mad at a few young programmers choices to change course. Maybe it's societies framework you should be getting mad at.

Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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Sounds like this author has some angst against those that are willing to go above and beyond in pursuit of a goal or accomplishment. This generation has been forced to be very entrepreneurial because of a lack of jobs. We learn fast, test our assumptions and make adjustments. This is a big contrast to the way AlexeyBrin thinks the world works. From his cushy and comfortable desk job, he thinks the same avenues availa…

This hasn't been my experience. For me and my classmates graduating college all have jobs in traditional companies much like my parents and (some) of their parents had. In fact many of us are going to make more inflation adjusted dollars out of college than our parents did. It may be true in certain parts of the country but mobility for young people should be high anyways. For those around me it's not whether or not…

Not like this in El Paso at all. Degrees are practically worth nothing.

Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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I'm not really one to talk about "kids these days" given that my longest job at one place was a little over 3 years. It's part of my personality. I get bored, what can I say. I'm looking for completion of my soul. It's out here I know it.. I saw it at the Porsche dealership I think.

Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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post #18

I feel sorry for the author of this post - he actually believes hard, boring work is the only way to accomplish anything. I've done both hard, boring work, and easy, efficient and enjoyable work. The easy work was both more enjoyable, more profitable and far better for my life as a whole. Life is not fair, there are no points awarded for working harder or being more diligent - there are only 'points' awarded for acco…

Good ol' puritanical work ethic. I do my best to work smarter. One of the reasons I try to stay current with the latest technology is to see what benefits it would have on my work efficiency.

Re: The Hacker News Generation (Afraid of Hard Work)

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post #9

Uh, the Nietzsche quote has a slightly different connotation when you give it a wider context: When seeking work for the sake of the pay, almost all men are alike at present in civilized countries. To all of them work is a means, and not itself the end; on which account they are not very select in the choice of the work, provided it yields an abundant profit. But there are rarer men who would rather die than work wit…

This is priceless.

And then: It doesn’t matter how brilliant you started out or how much faster you exited the gates than everyone else, those who consistently get up every morning and direct their energies along a single path, no matter how boring it may be, will eventually pass you on each of the many roads you haphazardly travel.

That's not how life works. You can direct all your efforts to bending cutlery, but you're not going to make a good living out of it. You're just not. And some people have it easy. Sorry, life is unfair.

But then I read that: Burn out is just a rationalization for giving up early.

The author may be a great programmer (I suspect him of being a robot), but he doesn't understand psychology. Not worth a read.

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