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Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

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How did you guys send emails? SaaS? Your own thing, if so then how did you make sure you didn't end up in 'spam box'?

Mailchimp. Didn't appear to have a problem with spam - each article was personalized, and included an unsubscribe link. Could have made it into some folk's spam folders though. No data on that.

good to know, thanks bro

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it's a bad trade for people to exchange their time for the low wage, they shouldn't take it. They may have little choice. You don't seem to understand what it means to be broke and unskilled.

But isn't that real problem? Not that MTurtk is available, but that people have no better choice? Attacking low paying jobs satisfies our moral outrage, but it doesn't actually help those wrote are left with nothing. We should concentrate in making sure people don't have to choose MTurk out of desperation, and banning it doesn't achieve that. This doesn't mean Amazon and companies like it are innocent in this situati…

> Attacking low paying jobs satisfies our moral outrage, but it doesn't actually help those wrote are left with nothing.

Yes it does, the minimum wage goes hand in hand with the social safety net. Banning low wage jobs pushes those with no better choice into the safety net which is better than letting them try and work 90 hour weeks at jobs that don't pay a living wage. This frees up their time to actually do something about the problem rather than being stuck just trying to feed yourself while you work yourself to the bone.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#73
Productize this! I'll pay you today for an easy to use service.

I am absolutely going to give this a shot for our next product release. I love that it simplifies the connection to relevant journalists. It's truly a win-win.

Thank you for sharing!

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But isn't that real problem? Not that MTurtk is available, but that people have no better choice? Attacking low paying jobs satisfies our moral outrage, but it doesn't actually help those wrote are left with nothing. We should concentrate in making sure people don't have to choose MTurk out of desperation, and banning it doesn't achieve that. This doesn't mean Amazon and companies like it are innocent in this situati…

> Attacking low paying jobs satisfies our moral outrage, but it doesn't actually help those wrote are left with nothing. Yes it does, the minimum wage goes hand in hand with the social safety net. Banning low wage jobs pushes those with no better choice into the safety net which is better than letting them try and work 90 hour weeks at jobs that don't pay a living wage. This frees up their time to actually do somethi…

So what you're saying is that they actually have a better option, but they're unable to realize that, so we should decide for them because we know best? Or is the safety net not available to them because MTurk exists? Because if it's the latter, I don't see why wouldn't you just make it available, MTurk or not.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Attacking low paying jobs satisfies our moral outrage, but it doesn't actually help those wrote are left with nothing. Yes it does, the minimum wage goes hand in hand with the social safety net. Banning low wage jobs pushes those with no better choice into the safety net which is better than letting them try and work 90 hour weeks at jobs that don't pay a living wage. This frees up their time to actually do somethi…

So what you're saying is that they actually have a better option, but they're unable to realize that, so we should decide for them because we know best? Or is the safety net not available to them because MTurk exists? Because if it's the latter, I don't see why wouldn't you just make it available, MTurk or not.

I'm not talking about MTurk specifically, but about all below minimum wage jobs.

> but they're unable to realize that, so we should decide for them because we know best

They are we, we are they, we're one society and if we democratically set a wage floor, then yes, we know best. That's rather the point of democracy, to remove choice about some things from the individual and make them together because it's better for us all despite what any one individual might choose.

> Or is the safety net not available to them because MTurk exists? Because if it's the latter, I don't see why wouldn't you just make it available, MTurk or not.

You'd be presuming the rules behind social programs are logical, they are not, they are designed by committee and as such can be haphazard and often illogical. Making money can actually hurt you if you're on the safety net because there's a hole where you're job would disqualify you for benefits that could exceed what the job would pay. Of course that varies state by state so there's no single answer to the question.

So until the safety net is more logical and lets you work without putting you in a worse position, then it's rational to simply not allow jobs that don't pay a living wage. Many have proposed a basic income to avoid this problem.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#76

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

The substantiation of the $0.25/hour claim is that they were able to find three people who were willing to work for that much on one task, once. I think this is extremely weak evidence to base a lot of outrage on or to make a claim of what the market hourly rate is on MT.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#77

I've mentioned before that I would pay to use this product. If you had the same tool that worked with a blog search API not only would I pay for it, but you could sell it to SEOs all day long. Just need to find a decent blog search API; I haven't had much luck.

If someone here were to market this product, do you have any suggestions as to how they could reach other customers as well, enough to make it a sustainable business?

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#78

Already have an MTurk batch running with 2,250 articles. This is amazing... Thanks! I set my price at $.05 but only using masters. Did you use masters? Did you set multiple assignments per hit or 1 was enough per article?

I didn't use masters for mine because it was easy enough for me to look at the email addresses that were coming in and see if they were junk.

Would be curious to find out if masters will work for $.05. Please keep me posted! :)

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#79

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

As one data point, I spent a while during college and took Turking seriously as a source of income and averaged about $7-$8 an hour over that time period. Not awesome, but not bad either for an always available, willing, form of employment.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#80

Already have an MTurk batch running with 2,250 articles. This is amazing... Thanks! I set my price at $.05 but only using masters. Did you use masters? Did you set multiple assignments per hit or 1 was enough per article?

I didn't use masters for mine because it was easy enough for me to look at the email addresses that were coming in and see if they were junk. Would be curious to find out if masters will work for $.05. Please keep me posted! :)

In 2 hours I had 2 HITs completed by masters. Probably going to need to switch to regular workers and closely monitor like you did.
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