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Re: How We Detect Adblock

#51

Post by nfoz »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #14

So has anybody ever tried to address the root cause of adblocker use, i.e. ads are really fucking annoying? I don't like ads in general, nobody does, but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me bother to install and maintain AdBlock. What does it is strobing "YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY WON" and animated "one weird trick" scams and softcore porn. This shit is everywhere , even on allegedly respectable news sites. If you wa…

I'll continue to ad-block even if ads are non-intrusive or annoying. I prefer no ads to any ads.

If your website requires a monetization scheme to exist, and you can't find a monetization scheme that doesn't pollute your product with (even nice simple) ads, that's not really my problem. I didn't force you to publish.

If I want your content, then I'd be happy to help pay for its generation. If it satisfies my terms, of course (open licensing, no ads).

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#53

Post by blumkvist »

eli wrote: post #38
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #14

So has anybody ever tried to address the root cause of adblocker use, i.e. ads are really fucking annoying? I don't like ads in general, nobody does, but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me bother to install and maintain AdBlock. What does it is strobing "YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY WON" and animated "one weird trick" scams and softcore porn. This shit is everywhere , even on allegedly respectable news sites. If you wa…

AdBlock Plus already has a system for exempting "acceptable" ads. Though the implementation is pretty controversial. http://www.salon.com/2013/09/02/the_internets_next_victim_ad...

I can pay ABP and have all my ads whitelisted. It's funny to me that so much people are on their nuts, when they just make money like everyone else.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#54

Post by kamjam »

nfoz wrote: post #51
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #14

So has anybody ever tried to address the root cause of adblocker use, i.e. ads are really fucking annoying? I don't like ads in general, nobody does, but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me bother to install and maintain AdBlock. What does it is strobing "YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY WON" and animated "one weird trick" scams and softcore porn. This shit is everywhere , even on allegedly respectable news sites. If you wa…

I'll continue to ad-block even if ads are non-intrusive or annoying. I prefer no ads to any ads. If your website requires a monetization scheme to exist, and you can't find a monetization scheme that doesn't pollute your product with (even nice simple) ads, that's not really my problem. I didn't force you to publish. If I want your content, then I'd be happy to help pay for its generation. If it satisfies my terms, o…

One site that annoys the hell out of me for adverts is http://www.autosport.com/ I read an article every so often, they appear in some Formula 1 feeds I am subscribed to. They also already have monetization scheme (you can few 10-20 articles "free" each month) but still insist on these horrendeous video ads with sound.

I'm on a limited data plan here in Canada (unlimited plans are not common and very expensive). So I have adblock, very rarely visit the site and now refuse to buy a subscription.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#55

Post by jonathansizz »

I've long thought that a useful feature for Adblock to include would be the option to load ads into the cache, then immediately delete them. This way the websites would make their money, the costs being pushed onto the advertisers instead.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#56

Post by kamjam »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #31
wingspan wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This brings up another case for detecting AdBlock: if you think your users are receptive to whitelisting non-annoying ads, you could detect the plugin and let them know that you strive to incorporate ads in a non-intrusive way and kindly ask them to disable AdBlock. Edit: sounds like this is what reddit does. Props to them!

Agreed. I was the original complainer in this thread, and I've whitelisted several sites that asked nicely and promised non-intrusive ads. I believe they all used https://www.projectwonderful.com/ as their ad provider, by the way. I haven't really inspected them, but if you want inoffensive ads on your page, that might be a good place to start looking.

Sometimes it is not the positioning or the non-intrusiveness which bothers me, it's the following me around and tracking. I find it a little creepy.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#57

Post by nocman »

How to get me to turn off Adblock:

1) Make ads that aren't annoying 2) Make ads that are low bandwidth 3) Make ads that don't take over the whole page (hiding the real content) 4) Don't show offensive ads (pornography, crude humor, etc) 5) Only advertise stuff that is of high quality and an excellent value for the money -- no junk.

Of course I realize that this will never happen, but one can dream.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

#58

Post by kamjam »

blumkvist wrote: post #53
eli wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AdBlock Plus already has a system for exempting "acceptable" ads. Though the implementation is pretty controversial. http://www.salon.com/2013/09/02/the_internets_next_victim_ad...

I can pay ABP and have all my ads whitelisted. It's funny to me that so much people are on their nuts, when they just make money like everyone else.

Please note that AdBlock is different to AdBlock Plus, despite the almost same names (I assume this was on purpose)

https://getadblock.com/

But yes, agree with your point if you are a ABP user.

Re: How We Detect Adblock

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Post by kamjam »

jonathansizz wrote: post #55

I've long thought that a useful feature for Adblock to include would be the option to load ads into the cache, then immediately delete them. This way the websites would make their money, the costs being pushed onto the advertisers instead.

But he script supposedly detects elements in page, css etc so this would not solve the issue of views, but I have no idea what the payment model is - is it just views or clickthroughs?

Re: How We Detect Adblock

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Post by tomjen3 »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #14

So has anybody ever tried to address the root cause of adblocker use, i.e. ads are really fucking annoying? I don't like ads in general, nobody does, but that alone wouldn't be enough to make me bother to install and maintain AdBlock. What does it is strobing "YOU MAY HAVE ALREADY WON" and animated "one weird trick" scams and softcore porn. This shit is everywhere , even on allegedly respectable news sites. If you wa…

I don't think it will be enough for most.

I have turned the non-obtrusive adblock option of, I don't want to see any ads ever.

There is a reason I don't want that - because ads are content that suck. Ads that don't suck are content - such as the funny videos I am watching.

I don't give a hoot if the site I am visiting goes down because it can't afford its bandwidth bills - there are plenty other sites.

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