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Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

It's not as though Amazon is going and pointing a gun at people's heads and telling them to Turk or die. If it's a bad trade for people to exchange their time for the low wage, they shouldn't take it.

> If it's a bad trade for people to exchange their time for the low wage, they shouldn't take it.

They may have little choice. You don't seem to understand what it means to be broke and unskilled.

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It's not as though Amazon is going and pointing a gun at people's heads and telling them to Turk or die. If it's a bad trade for people to exchange their time for the low wage, they shouldn't take it.

Rob, as a software engineer at google, I would not expect you to to be able to relate to those without opportunities. In fact, there is some evidence that utilizing your brain to solve technical problems can restrict its ability to empathize. Of course amazon has no gun, but that does not mean that poverty in itself is not violent. As you like science and data, here is a read for you: http://www.sciencedaily.com/rele…

FYI I am also a programmer and lack of empathy in my own life and relationships has caused me serious problems.

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And all for $0.03 Does that make anyone else feel a bit ick at mTurk?

Agreed. Surely the ~350 email addresses (although stated about 1/2 were valid) were worth much more than $10. In my opinion, it's unethical.

Comments welcome here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6483636

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not as though Amazon is going and pointing a gun at people's heads and telling them to Turk or die. If it's a bad trade for people to exchange their time for the low wage, they shouldn't take it.

This argument sounds good on paper, but it has centuries of evidence against it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_union#History

It doesn't even sound good on paper. You don't have to work if somebody puts a gun to your head, either. You have the freedom of choice to take the bullet if that's your preference.

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#36

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/COLI_a_00057

"Amazon Mechanical Turk: Gold Mine or Coal Mine?" from Computational Linguistics.

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post #29

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

(Disclaimer: I work for Amazon, but not on anything related to mTurk) Is there reason to believe that people are using mTurk full-time as a significant source of income? I've Turked a bunch -- and know people who do it for a couple hours a day -- and my understanding is that its overwhelmingly used as a way to pick up a few extra bucks while catching up on TV, a slightly more civilized replacement for clipping coupon…

According to the same 2010 study I mentioned in another comment, about 7% use it 30 hours per week plus. That's not a huge number but I imagine that those of the 7% would consider it full time work. http://sites.uci.edu/andrewzaldivar/files/2012/05/SocialCode...

Re: MTurk + Google News API = press

#38

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

Care to elaborate what is the exact mechanism by which MT perpetuates poverty? Given two worlds, one with MT and one without, what exactly are the opportunities that poor people are deprived of in the former which are available in the latter?

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#39

Mechanical turk is abusive. It bypasses the laws that were designed to protect the most vulnerable, and it will take some time for new laws to catch up that can regulate operations like mechanical turk. Just because new services and start ups have out maneuvered the law making system does not make those services ethical. "Workers relying on such low wages and unstable employment are not likely to be able to educate t…

> Does anyone know if there any systems like mechanical turk that guarantee at least minimum wage is being paid to the workers?

I think that was the whole point behind Mobileworks, don't know how well they are doing though. https://www.mobileworks.com/company/fair-trade-work

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Did any of those 300 emails bounce. I.E., how many weren't correct? Edit: Not yet tried mTurk so just curious how legitimacy and payments are handled.

Good question. Overall quality was high (you're able to see the results as they come in and if they look funky, you can reject them and you won't have to pay). Stats on our campaign are here: http://screencast.com/t/5XizDvsvjP

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