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What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't agree at all. Whilst it may be asynchronous, people do have an expectation of a reply within a reasonable time frame - hours to a few days depending on the relationship. It is _incredibly_ infuriating when people are out for 2 weeks and don't alert you to this fact. You end up wasting time waiting for a repsonse when you culd have immediately sought assistance from an alternative contact. It's not spam. It's po…

> Whilst it may be asynchronous, people do have an expectation of a reply within a reasonable time frame - hours to a few days depending on the relationship. Not at all, unless frequent contacts are expected in which case you should be warned through other channels. > You end up wasting time waiting for a repsonse when you culd have immediately sought assistance from an alternative contact. If you need fast turnaroun…

Mailing lists are supposed to use priority=bulk.

Mail server are supposed not to reply to bulk email automatically.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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I while back I set up a rule on my mail server that would effectively OOF respond if people in my company if they didn't CC my manager (indicating that you should CC my manager so that he can triage whatever issue you may need me for). People started coming to me with real issues (instead of the "reflex ask the senior engineer") with valuable evidence (logs, etc.) - they not only needed to convince me to use my time on their work, but my manager as well. Some even found their answers on Google (I was in complete shock). That extra barrier (my manager) was an excellent deterrent for people pawning their work off on to me.

I have since turned it off, but people remain a lot more respectful of my time (I may now be perceived as a dick because of it).

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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post #23

I while back I set up a rule on my mail server that would effectively OOF respond if people in my company if they didn't CC my manager (indicating that you should CC my manager so that he can triage whatever issue you may need me for). People started coming to me with real issues (instead of the "reflex ask the senior engineer") with valuable evidence (logs, etc.) - they not only needed to convince me to use my time…

Unfortunately this requires having a good manager who is willing to take some heat for you. In my experience, managers view their reports as being there to cover for them, not the other way around.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

eh, the big problem is people on mailing lists. Everyone hates out of office emails in mailing lists. Vacation messages, when emailing individuals? Yeah, in the technical sphere, they are generally considered kinda rude. In the business sphere, the opposite. So yeah, here on hn, with a foot in both camps, eh, just make sure you don't vacation message a mailing list.

That's easy to say, but hard to actually do. As much as I hate spamming mailing lists, it's not like I'm going to spend two days carefully specifying answering rules for every autoreply message target in my Outlook that I must use at work. So, the burden of doing that properly is on Microsoft or company IT to make sure who will get the auto reply, while all user can and has to do is to tick a check box and type an ac…

If your Exchange server is 2007SP1 and up, you can specify your OOF to only send to external users who are on your contacts list. That should resolve the mailing list spamming issue here.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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post #23

I while back I set up a rule on my mail server that would effectively OOF respond if people in my company if they didn't CC my manager (indicating that you should CC my manager so that he can triage whatever issue you may need me for). People started coming to me with real issues (instead of the "reflex ask the senior engineer") with valuable evidence (logs, etc.) - they not only needed to convince me to use my time…

I wonder how much real information you missed that way.

Also WTF for being on IRC but not email.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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"some issues resolve themselves" is not true. What you really mean is, "someone else resolved the issue."

Sounds like you've never worked a computer help desk. Lots of times people would call in and the problem would stop as soon as they got halfway through explaining it. They just weren't patient enough.

Sometimes people would call in and through the process of describing the issue they would figure out exactly what they needed to do, they just needed to talk it out.

I think this is true for lots of things.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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post #23

I while back I set up a rule on my mail server that would effectively OOF respond if people in my company if they didn't CC my manager (indicating that you should CC my manager so that he can triage whatever issue you may need me for). People started coming to me with real issues (instead of the "reflex ask the senior engineer") with valuable evidence (logs, etc.) - they not only needed to convince me to use my time…

You are probably perceived as a dick, as am I these days but it doesn't mean you are wrong. This is an unfortunate side effect of office politics and double-standards.

My particular perception switcher was when people started starting side conversations by forwarding JIRA ticket email notifications to me with comments etc and emails with ticket references in asking questions.

I rejected these with a simple filter [A-Z]{1,3}-[0-9]{1,6} with "write it on the damn ticket, peon" (in slightly friendlier language).

Everything turns up on tickets now and I get 4-5 emails a day compared to 80-100.

Re: What I learned from turning my ‘Out of Office’ auto-replies on for a month

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Love this! Basically work email is horrible, do all you can to stop it. It creates individual silos of knowledge that only people included are party to, whenever someone leaves they take this with them (would you start a job and take on someone else's old mailbox, yuck!) It drags people into work 24/7, especially in global organisations but also in 9-5 local time type places, yuck! I've worked hard to get everyone at…

IM is worse.

Frankly though, deal with it - because a phone call is even worse (if you have phones in the office anymore, I don't think I have).

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