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Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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As the article points out, has to be the low to mid-range phones. The Lumia 520 costs $100 off contract, which is an amazing deal.

I'm quite sure you can carefully select the market your research covers as to make any given platform lead. For instance, Windows Phone is the absolute leader in phones whose brands start with "N" and end with "okia".

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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Windows Mobile market share is a long way off 8.8% according to Statcounter: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-DE-monthly-201209-20130... That said I could believe the sales growth as Nokia are know for making great quality low end devices so there could be traction gained here as the allure of flagship phones is not as appealing/affordable for all as base technology improves. IMO the best thing WM could do is cre…

The stats are sales over the last 3 months, not install base. However, Statcounter tries to measure usage, not unique devices. Netmarketshare tries to measure individual browsers/devices.

For example, if you browse 10 sites in a day on an Android phone, but your neighbor browses 990 sites a day on her iPhone, the Statcounter numbers with just you both being counted will be 1% Android and 99% iPhone even though the install base is 50% each.

This is the reason that Statcounter and Netmarketshare browser share numbers are so different from each other, with Statcounter showing Chrome in the lead and Netmarketshare showing IE in the lead.

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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post #11

This is share of sales in the last 3 months, not share of devices in the wild. It's no surprise that iPhone's sales share plummeted the last quarter before the 5S release.

I think it is the Nokia Lumia 1020/EOS, which I've heard is more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe. I have to admit when I've seen the commercials, I wanted one also.

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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post #11

This is share of sales in the last 3 months, not share of devices in the wild. It's no surprise that iPhone's sales share plummeted the last quarter before the 5S release.

I think it is the Nokia Lumia 1020/EOS, which I've heard is more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe. I have to admit when I've seen the commercials, I wanted one also.

"more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe"

In what sense? Some very reliable reviewers (e.g. Brian Klug) say the camera truly is incredible...

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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post #21
post #4

As the article points out, has to be the low to mid-range phones. The Lumia 520 costs $100 off contract, which is an amazing deal.

I'm quite sure you can carefully select the market your research covers as to make any given platform lead. For instance, Windows Phone is the absolute leader in phones whose brands start with "N" and end with "okia".

Actually, that would be S40

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is the Nokia Lumia 1020/EOS, which I've heard is more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe. I have to admit when I've seen the commercials, I wanted one also.

"more of a sham than marketing would lead you to believe" In what sense? Some very reliable reviewers (e.g. Brian Klug) say the camera truly is incredible...

5MP downsample, resolution falls well short of what a 38MP camera should (theoretically) be capable of, runs windows phone 8 (fewer apps), phone has awkward shape not shown in commercials, low screen resolution, and as the following review puts it:

http://www.everyjoe.com/2013/07/13/technology/nokia-lumia-10...

"You might think that despite all of these negatives, at least the Lumia 1020 blows all other phones out of the water when it comes to the camera. You’d be wrong. There’s a noticeable lag when between taking a picture, saving it, and being able to take another picture. The Lumia 1020 comes with three different camera apps, each with their own function, so good luck figuring out what does what. Annoyingly, every photo you take has an on-screen caption that reminds you which app took the photo, but at least it doesn't show up in the picture itself"

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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This must be bullshit. Not that I have scientific evidence, but as a app developer I got quite good at identifying a device type just by having a quick glance at it and that's what I usually do to keep me busy in public transport and other places. What I see is about 50% iPhones, the majority being iPhone 4, not so many 4S, but also quite a few iPhone 5. Next up are Samsung phones of all kinds, with the prevalent being S3, S2 and low budget ones like the Ace. Not so many S4 though yet. HTC and everything else are kind of the underdog. And very rarely someone pulls out a BlackBerry. But Windows Phone? I think I've seen one so far. I don't doubt there are out there, but comparing the share with the iPhone is ridiculous.

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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Windows Mobile market share is a long way off 8.8% according to Statcounter: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-DE-monthly-201209-20130... That said I could believe the sales growth as Nokia are know for making great quality low end devices so there could be traction gained here as the allure of flagship phones is not as appealing/affordable for all as base technology improves. IMO the best thing WM could do is cre…

Those statistics are for usage instead of devices, include tablets and not just phones, and sidestep people who don't have a data plan (a more common situation for low end smartphone buyers in europe vs the US).

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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post #27

This must be bullshit. Not that I have scientific evidence, but as a app developer I got quite good at identifying a device type just by having a quick glance at it and that's what I usually do to keep me busy in public transport and other places. What I see is about 50% iPhones, the majority being iPhone 4, not so many 4S, but also quite a few iPhone 5. Next up are Samsung phones of all kinds, with the prevalent bei…

Where do you live? Smartphone marketshare is highly regional. I live in belgium and see them all the time.

Re: Windows Phone doubles share in Europe, trails iPhone by only 1% in Germany

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Weird way of reporting the stats (as others in this thread seem to imply) or not, just walking around in Germany is enough to realize that Windows Phone is comparatively popular there. It's very present both in real users' hands and advertising. I wonder if focusing on ROTW markets is Microsoft's strategy.
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