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The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by ahoyhere »

sliverstorm wrote: post #19
ajross wrote: post #8

I really want this to be true. I will say that as someone with a corporate job outside the actual startup community, I really miss the days of "Make something people want", and "Ramen profitable" (does anyone even remember ramen profitability anymore?). It really does seem that the community has sold itself out to a process aimed at driving multiround funding toward an acquisition event and that it's lost sight of th…

does anyone even remember ramen profitability anymore? Interesting thought. If the standard mode is now to get VCs and angels to plow cash into your venture, is anybody actually depending on the profits of their venture to eat anymore?

Yes, lots of us are. The trick is, we've mostly given up on HN. First of all because we got tired of the "lifestyle business" sneer/smear. Second there is almost no content here for us any more.

In May, I organized a 100% bootstrapped product conference: http://baconbiz.com. We had 16 speakers, out of a total of 65 people. (All lightning speakers bought their own tickets.) Many traveled for hours to attend.

Why? Who? What happened?

Our trailer: http://cheerful.wistia.com/medias/i8my1fqcyt

Once we get all the conf videos posted, we'll be working on a discussion/community site for product bootstrappers as well, to fill the hole left by the demise of the early HN experience.

In true bootstrap fashion, we ditched the hotel ballroom and held the event in our office. Sponsors just paid for our "after" party (on 1st night, Thursday, instead of Friday, to save costs.) The conf itself was "ramen profitable."

Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by porter »

ahoyhere wrote: post #21
sliverstorm wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does anyone even remember ramen profitability anymore? Interesting thought. If the standard mode is now to get VCs and angels to plow cash into your venture, is anybody actually depending on the profits of their venture to eat anymore?

Yes, lots of us are. The trick is, we've mostly given up on HN. First of all because we got tired of the "lifestyle business" sneer/smear. Second there is almost no content here for us any more. In May, I organized a 100% bootstrapped product conference: http://baconbiz.com . We had 16 speakers, out of a total of 65 people. (All lightning speakers bought their own tickets.) Many traveled for hours to attend. Why? Who…

kinda like micropreneur.com?

Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by ahoyhere »

porter wrote: post #22
ahoyhere wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, lots of us are. The trick is, we've mostly given up on HN. First of all because we got tired of the "lifestyle business" sneer/smear. Second there is almost no content here for us any more. In May, I organized a 100% bootstrapped product conference: http://baconbiz.com . We had 16 speakers, out of a total of 65 people. (All lightning speakers bought their own tickets.) Many traveled for hours to attend. Why? Who…

kinda like micropreneur.com?

Oh, good question. I can see why you'd think that.

Nope, BB will be more like HN, but specifically for bootstrappers and related topics only. IOW: public-facing, free to use. (Although I think we're going to do a MeFi-style $5 or $10 join fee, to encourage good citizenship.)

It's not going to be a product. I'm not going to run it unilaterally, either. It's for the community.

Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by scarybootstrap »

porter wrote: post #22
ahoyhere wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, lots of us are. The trick is, we've mostly given up on HN. First of all because we got tired of the "lifestyle business" sneer/smear. Second there is almost no content here for us any more. In May, I organized a 100% bootstrapped product conference: http://baconbiz.com . We had 16 speakers, out of a total of 65 people. (All lightning speakers bought their own tickets.) Many traveled for hours to attend. Why? Who…

kinda like micropreneur.com?

Nope, like HN (free, public) but specifically for content related to bootstrapping and business only. It's for the community, not a business itself. I don't need another business.

I got hellbanned for just talking about it above! So that's exciting. Let's see how long this comment lasts.

Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by eitland »

scarybootstrap wrote: post #24
porter wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

kinda like micropreneur.com?

Nope, like HN (free, public) but specifically for content related to bootstrapping and business only. It's for the community, not a business itself. I don't need another business. I got hellbanned for just talking about it above! So that's exciting. Let's see how long this comment lasts.

I think the reason for the ban was comments in another thread.

Now, make a note of your new nick. Sad to se the old one go as it was easily recognizable.

Re: The Growth Hacker Movement Is Poisonous

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Post by adjunct1234 »

viddy, socialCam, BranchOut, DoAlbums all used FB open graph when you could report on content consumption which created fast viral loops (Viral coefficient >1 ), even todays best growth hacking is going to find it hard to produce such results, basically retention is key.... if you have retention on small scale only then do growth hacking!
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