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Re: Google Web Designer

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Readability is in Safari, so many (many) millions of users. There are extensions for basically everything, bookmarklets for everything else, and many news-reading applications use the same scripts to render their 'text' views. And popup / cookie blocking has been standard (not just common!) for a while, so I assume you didn't mean that.

I've been using Evernote Clearly for a while, which is easily the best extension for this in Chrome.

http://evernote.com/clearly/

Re: Google Web Designer

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It's surprising to me how many people are complaining about the lack of a Linux version. A Linux version would be great! but let's put our idealogical hats aside, and think like a business.

The intersection between their target audience, and Linux is minute! Unless it came for free, investing in a Linux version of the app would have been a terrible use of resources

Re: Google Web Designer

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I tried to open an existing html file and got: "Unable to open file due to the following error: The file was not created in Google Web Designer." So, basically, Google is just creating their own proprietary format that's built on HTML. Even if you are just using it to construct ads you'll be somewhat locked-in to this toolchain. Since HTML is inherently open people will be able to build converters but it's still a ba…

Because of this it's worthless to me as is, a complete non-starter. What a ridiculous requirement, if I want to use this "web designer" I am supposed to rewrite or abandon all my previous work. Good luck getting anyone to use this.

It serves a specific purpose, the same as Adobe Edge Animate, they've just picked an awful name for it. If you scroll through the features, it's clearly targeted towards one particular type of content, not 'web design'.

Re: Google Web Designer

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As someone who works in a museum designing web and html5 exhibit media, it makes me a bit sad that upon opening all the defaults are specific to creating advertisements. I know that's the business that Google is in, I just wish they would stop pretending that they have the same goals as their hypothetical "World History Museum."

Re: Google Web Designer

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Or you could stop using a website you don't think does ads correctly.

Well then. I suppose you are also opposed to * pop-up blocking * cookie blocking * readability ..all of which are common browser features now. Because you can just not visit bad sites. Yeah, didn't think so.

The only relevant thing you've mentioned in your list is pop-up blocking, which is a subset of advertising (cookie blocking doesn't prevent impression and click tracking, and Readability has nothing to do with ad blocking, as the most common use case for Readability is after you've visited a page already).

Blocking one form of advert is not even slightly the same as blocking all forms of adverts.

There is an implicit social contract created when a content distributor attempts to monetize the content - you can only obtain the content if you go through the monetization strategy. Sometimes that's a price on the content, other times that's an advert.

Circumventing the monetization strategy is a statement that you believe you're entitled to the content without paying for it. Almost universally, you're not, and this entitlement complex is pervasive through Internet users. TV shows, movies, music, software, anything that's been given artificial scarcity is a target for this entitlement attitude.

For some content, this attitude doesn't hurt the content producer enough to be meaningful, or the content producer has adapted. This is almost universally the most valuable and previously established content producers. Your large game studios, your record labels, etc. For other content producers, however, those who aren't as well established, the harm is more severe. The independent web comic, the unsigned band, the budding writer, the local newspaper. These people suffer because Internet users think they deserve the content these people create without providing compensation, and subsequently, less content gets made, talent can't be developed, gifted individuals can't specialize, and the world is a less beautiful place.

So sure, we can continue to use ad blockers, but at what cost? It's not hurting U2, and it's not hurting J.K. Rowling, but it's hurting other people, people who feel the kinds of pain a 1.5% vs. a 2.5% CTR might bring.

Re: Google Web Designer

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I'm sorry, but what's so wrong with not wanting to have advertisements on your browser? People make their money via ads? Sure, why not. Do I always have to see those ads, and just sigh and "suck it up", even though it's potentially ruining my browsing experience? I don't think so.

> I'm sorry, but what's so wrong with not wanting to have advertisements on your browser? Would you pay a monthly fee to all the websites that provide you content in exchange for an ad free experience?

I paid for Pandora specifically so I didn't have to listen to their ads.

Re: Google Web Designer

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Downloaded. Opened. Drew a rectangle. Filled with #FF0000. It spit this out: https://gist.github.com/JacksonGariety/6766626 (after struggling and realizing CMD+S wasn't saving my file) I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

The amount of code it generates for a page containing just a rectangle is not a good way to judge the tool. They may have some finite overhead because of the expectation that most users will be using the tool to create more complex pages. If the tool is good for the average ad-page that's created, while maintaining cross-browser compatibility, and bad for extremely simple pages, then who is to judge?

It would help to see the following.

Draw one rectangle. Save as rect1.

Draw a second rectangle. Save as rect2.

Show us the diff between rect1 and rect2.

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