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Re: Google Web Designer

#91

Post by icambron »

sek wrote: post #60
JacksonGariety wrote: post #43

Downloaded. Opened. Drew a rectangle. Filled with #FF0000. It spit this out: https://gist.github.com/JacksonGariety/6766626 (after struggling and realizing CMD+S wasn't saving my file) I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

Who cares about what you think? Give some constructive criticism or shut up. Do you know how much code this is for a runtime and how many browser incompatibility issues this solves.

> Who cares about what you think?

He probably does, to begin with. That you might disagree with him about how much code is warranted here does not make his comment unconstructive.

Re: Google Web Designer

#92

Post by blankenship »

Recoil42 wrote: post #62
JacksonGariety wrote: post #43

Downloaded. Opened. Drew a rectangle. Filled with #FF0000. It spit this out: https://gist.github.com/JacksonGariety/6766626 (after struggling and realizing CMD+S wasn't saving my file) I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

It's meant as an ad development tool, not a page development tool. Entirely different audience.

...which is why they should call it Google Ad Designer.

Re: Google Web Designer

#94

Post by SkyMarshal »

mason55 wrote: post #82

I tried to open an existing html file and got: "Unable to open file due to the following error: The file was not created in Google Web Designer." So, basically, Google is just creating their own proprietary format that's built on HTML. Even if you are just using it to construct ads you'll be somewhat locked-in to this toolchain. Since HTML is inherently open people will be able to build converters but it's still a ba…

As a replacement for open web frameworks perhaps it's a regression, but as a replacement for Flash I'd say it's a step forward.

Re: Google Web Designer

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Post by krapp »

mason55 wrote: post #82

I tried to open an existing html file and got: "Unable to open file due to the following error: The file was not created in Google Web Designer." So, basically, Google is just creating their own proprietary format that's built on HTML. Even if you are just using it to construct ads you'll be somewhat locked-in to this toolchain. Since HTML is inherently open people will be able to build converters but it's still a ba…

>So, basically, Google is just creating their own proprietary format that's built on HTML. Even if you are just using it to construct ads you'll be somewhat locked-in to this toolchain. Since HTML is inherently open people will be able to build converters but it's still a bad precedent.

Adobe's Muse does a similar thing - if you publish to Business Catalyst using it it locks you into a proprietary "format" that forces you to stay on the platform and edit the site through Muse, or else it no longer 'compiles.'

Re: Google Web Designer

#96

Post by r0h1n »

JacksonGariety wrote: post #43

Downloaded. Opened. Drew a rectangle. Filled with #FF0000. It spit this out: https://gist.github.com/JacksonGariety/6766626 (after struggling and realizing CMD+S wasn't saving my file) I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

Google Web Designer 2013 = Microsoft Frontpage 2000?

Re: Google Web Designer

#98

Post by Shamanmuni »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #85
Shamanmuni wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's called "Google Web Designer", so many of us web developers probably thought we were the target audience. I first thought it was a Dreamweaver competitor with better support for JS libraries and HTML5, which would be great. Instead we have "Google Ad Designer" targeted at designers and marketers. OK, I was still interested at least to play with it for a while and see if I could recommend it to my designer fri…

Are you seriously getting bent out of shape because they said PC and Mac instead of Windows and OS X??? Wow...

I am, mostly because it's wrong and helps in perpetuating misconceptions. I use a PC with Linux, you can use a Mac with Windows or Linux (and others), and nowadays Macs are PCs with a prettier design, so saying "PC and Mac" is completely meaningless. It's like saying "Mobile phones" when it only works in Android. You then have to take the time to explain to normal users why it doesn't work in their iPhones or Blackberries.

I would expect better from Google.

Re: Google Web Designer

#99

Post by BigChiefSmokem »

JacksonGariety wrote: post #43

Downloaded. Opened. Drew a rectangle. Filled with #FF0000. It spit this out: https://gist.github.com/JacksonGariety/6766626 (after struggling and realizing CMD+S wasn't saving my file) I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

My favorite part is the WebKit specific code... Don't be Evil and something about standards right?

This is like IE4/Netscape Communicator days all over again, except now with more than two dominant browsers...

"I was a web dev in the 90s and all I got was this lousy XMLHttpRequest object"

Re: Google Web Designer

#100

Post by sek »

icambron wrote: post #91
sek wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who cares about what you think? Give some constructive criticism or shut up. Do you know how much code this is for a runtime and how many browser incompatibility issues this solves.

> Who cares about what you think? He probably does, to begin with. That you might disagree with him about how much code is warranted here does not make his comment unconstructive.

> I feel sorry for whoever was tasked with making this application.

That sounds just condescending to me.

What is the problem with a < 4kb runtime and some browser hacks?

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