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Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

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Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

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There's this little thing called del.icio.us in which it's possible to achieve the exact same functionality (and more with some social features), have you heard of it?

Of course I have. I don't want my bookmarks to be "social", though. Nor do I want to upload them for data mining by a commercial service.

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#53

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And has cheek to say: "Cross-platform, cross-browser Works just about everywhere (except Internet Explorer, sorry about that) (Need IE support? Email for a price quote :-))" Meh.

Here's the deal: this is a personal project I wrote for myself (and anyone else who wants to use it). I decided some time ago that I wasn't going to worry about making stuff work in IE unless I was getting paid for it. In this case, I'm not. It's free (it doesn't even have ads). I don't use IE. I don't even know anyone who uses IE. Even my older non-technical family members use Chrome (or Safari, if they have Macs).…

Sorry, in that presentation you just come off as jumping onto the "look at me, aren't I rad for not supporting IE" smartarse bullshit wagon. Perhaps leave an explanation as to why even IE10 isn't supported?

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#54

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Here's the deal: this is a personal project I wrote for myself (and anyone else who wants to use it). I decided some time ago that I wasn't going to worry about making stuff work in IE unless I was getting paid for it. In this case, I'm not. It's free (it doesn't even have ads). I don't use IE. I don't even know anyone who uses IE. Even my older non-technical family members use Chrome (or Safari, if they have Macs).…

Sorry, in that presentation you just come off as jumping onto the "look at me, aren't I rad for not supporting IE" smartarse bullshit wagon. Perhaps leave an explanation as to why even IE10 isn't supported?

I really don't want to have an IE flame war here. "Not supported" means just that: "not supported". It might work in IE 10 (or more likely, 11). I don't know. If it doesn't, I won't fix it. Not for free.

Microsoft has $68 billion in cash. They can afford a lot more developer time than I can.

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#55
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Allow me to explain (my) hate. I saw this while browsing from my phone at a coffee shop and thought to myself, "hey, bookmarks are a pain in the ass, let's have a look" The product could be awesome, but it took so long to get to the point that I gave up, and when I did, my history was completely full of worthless slides that it was easier to close the tab than go back. This presentation is a great example of bad desi…

So you're saying it should be designed more like http://www.piku.jp/ then? :-)

Unless you're planning on selling coupons in Japan for a startup that I worked with three years ago, then hell no. It should be designed like Instapaper.

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#56
I liked the concept but I have a few niggling issues:

> The link opens to the presentation. I'd rather it open at the /engine/ and have a link to the presentation.

> Copy all the points of the presentation into a page and keep that handy for accessibility. Will probably help tone down the entitled, asshole-y comments a bit.

> Explain clearly where the data is being stored. Where does the bookmarks file that I exported actually go? Where is this database that you mention? On your server? On my local machine?

> Can you convert the independent page/tab so that it opens in a modal window instead? Will help me remember the context of the page. YMMV, of course.

> Convert the menu into a sidebar and delete the link/tab/button entirely.

Just a few thoughts/ideas/suggestions/opinions. YMMV. I like it but not sure how I can effectively to use it yet. Good luck!

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#57
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I present to you three alternatives for better browsing: 1. CTRL+click 2. Middle-click 3. Right-click link -> Open in new tab. One of them should (hopefully) work if you are using a browser that supports tabbed windows. ;) EDIT: Almost forgot this one: If you are browsing on your mobile device, long-press -> "open in new tab" or "open in background tab" should (ideally) work.

Your long-winded reply of "just use tabbed browsing" does not address the fact that this is a sloppy UI choice. You're also implicitly stating that when someone makes a website it's ok for them to base their design decisions around the assumption that the user will be using tabbed browsing in such a fashion.

Then tell him that specific bit? Your short-reply about his presentation polluting your browser history didn't add much, either. :P

IMHO, I think he chose reveal.js because it was so highly regarded on HN just a few days ago. I don't think he would've expect that people would comment on that rather than his actual efforts, a.k.a. the bookmark storage and search.

When someone makes a website, they always base their designs around certain assumptions; his was to assume that people usually open new links in tabs. (I do, too.) Over time and after feedback is when these decisions are either vindicated or proven wrong.

I apologize for the passive-aggressive nature of my comment. It's just that the HN hive-mind has been quite snobbish towards budding developers of late and it has left a bad taste in my mouth. Personally, I believe that every developer who does a "Show HN" deserves at least one positive comment for every criticism they receive. YMMV, of course.

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

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Sorry, in that presentation you just come off as jumping onto the "look at me, aren't I rad for not supporting IE" smartarse bullshit wagon. Perhaps leave an explanation as to why even IE10 isn't supported?

I really don't want to have an IE flame war here. "Not supported" means just that: "not supported". It might work in IE 10 (or more likely, 11). I don't know. If it doesn't, I won't fix it. Not for free. Microsoft has $68 billion in cash . They can afford a lot more developer time than I can.

That's fair enough. Given you aren't actually charging anything for it, then there's no cheek. I'm hoping that most people understand that this is a personal project.

FWIW, ignore these comments. Their tone is ridiculous and not constructive. Instead of saying "I think that there's an issue with clicking on the back button, here's a pointer to fix it", they've decided to use non-constructive criticism along the lines of "You're a loser because you can't allow people to use the back button".

Honestly, I've never understood this sort of thing. It smacks of elitism, but the underlying causes is a deep seated unease about the commenter's own confidence.

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#59
post #25

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I present to you three alternatives for better browsing: 1. CTRL+click 2. Middle-click 3. Right-click link -> Open in new tab. One of them should (hopefully) work if you are using a browser that supports tabbed windows. ;) EDIT: Almost forgot this one: If you are browsing on your mobile device, long-press -> "open in new tab" or "open in background tab" should (ideally) work.

Your long-winded reply of "just use tabbed browsing" does not address the fact that this is a sloppy UI choice. You're also implicitly stating that when someone makes a website it's ok for them to base their design decisions around the assumption that the user will be using tabbed browsing in such a fashion.

I'd probably have read your comment in a positive light if you weren't so aggressive. The author would probably like to you to be civil to them as well. Is this so hard?

Re: Show HN: Escape from Bookmark Hell

#60
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your long-winded reply of "just use tabbed browsing" does not address the fact that this is a sloppy UI choice. You're also implicitly stating that when someone makes a website it's ok for them to base their design decisions around the assumption that the user will be using tabbed browsing in such a fashion.

I'd probably have read your comment in a positive light if you weren't so aggressive. The author would probably like to you to be civil to them as well. Is this so hard?

It wasn't intended to be aggressive. It was meant as more of a lighthearted sarcastic jab (hence the emoticon). I guess this didn't translate well.
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