religious indoctrination? from the California teachers union? Now that is funny.
The copyright cartel's plot to indoctrinate California kindergartens
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#12Yes, it has angered me for many years - and has been a bitter regret my entire life - that my public school basically forced me to break the law for so many years, and never more egregiously than when I made my collages. To all of the authors, photographers, and publishers of the many magazines and newspapers that I defaced and stole from: I am so, so sorry. I never realized that it was your work, your life blood, an…
> What have we become?
A nation of thieves. Actually, seems we started that way.
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#13From the Grade 1 lesson: [Select two students who are outgoing and will be able to enjoy this activity. Send the students on a quick (30 seconds) errand before they start drawing. Example: “Please run this note to the library.” When the students leave, tell the class you want them to all copy one of the pictures being drawn on the white board. Remind the class to copy the artwork without telling the volunteer artists…
Yes, that lesson plan is outrageous. But no, it's not outrageous that lessons plans exist and are shared in general.
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#14This will probably work just about as well as D.A.R.E. did to convince Californians to not take drugs.
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#15I know javajosh would agree, but seriously, is no one else extremely disturbed by the clear implications of this 'plot'? So basically, a group of corporations can't get people to behave the way they want them to. So their idea is to literally influence the educational curriculum in the hopes that future generations will behave exactly the way they want them to. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg on our alre…
> I am speaking from an idealist point of view,
The government point of view of schools is hardly ideal. There are plenty of examples of those in power in government using the schools to push their own agenda.
Not only that, even the notion of a common curriculum can be injustice. One good for one group of people can be injustice for another.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_assimilation_of_Native...
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#16The doesn't seem HORRIBLE: although it may not be good that external companies are influencing the curriculum, an understanding of copyright seems like an idea that is understandable for the CSLA to want to teach in some regard.
I find the scheme abominable because corporations are attempting to mold the unconscious minds of elementary school students to morally support specific political policies (viz. copyright). And they're using public education as the distribution method for their propaganda.
Re: The copyright cartel's plot to indoctrinate California kindergartens
#17I know javajosh would agree, but seriously, is no one else extremely disturbed by the clear implications of this 'plot'? So basically, a group of corporations can't get people to behave the way they want them to. So their idea is to literally influence the educational curriculum in the hopes that future generations will behave exactly the way they want them to. This is probably just the tip of the iceberg on our alre…
How would we enforce a separation of corporation and the state? From what I know, the separation of the Church and the state is to stop the government from interfering with matters of the Church.
We don't even have a mechanism to restrict the Church from interfering with the state besides taking away a privilege of tax-exempt status. I am not restriction is a bad idea. I am just not sure how it is achievable.
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#18This will probably work just about as well as D.A.R.E. did to convince Californians to not take drugs.
Don't Copy That Floppy
Re: The copyright cartel's plot to indoctrinate California kindergartens
#19We should be far more worried about religious indoctrination than this.
I'd love to see people stand up to Big Religion, but... how? Religion is institutionalized mental and physical child abuse and everybody seems a-okay with all of it.
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#20From the Grade 1 lesson: [Select two students who are outgoing and will be able to enjoy this activity. Send the students on a quick (30 seconds) errand before they start drawing. Example: “Please run this note to the library.” When the students leave, tell the class you want them to all copy one of the pictures being drawn on the white board. Remind the class to copy the artwork without telling the volunteer artists…
Not as simple as "can't/won't". There's also "not allowed to". If the only purpose of education is to teach to a test, and the board selects the book which was written for the test... it does kinda destroy teacher's individuality, but since that seems to be a goal...
Some other examples of rather finely defined lesson plans nearly to the point of reading a teleprompter are "human growth and development" which is finely crafted to keep the religious nutcases under control, and "nutrition" which is pretty much whatever the farm lobby wants to sell and anything related to illegal drugs/tobacco/alcohol.
There is very little point in firing a teacher for teaching to a lesson plan if the board that hired the teacher very nearly dictated exactly what to say. Any replacement would simply be somewhat less rebellious and more authoritarian, not exactly an improvement.