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Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by rw »

mikedouglas wrote: post #9
rw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better data is over a longer span of time.

I'm not sure what you're saying. StatsCounter (the source of the data) reported that Bing was briefly a more popular referral than Yahoo, but that the trend has now reversed. If you don't trust the June 4th data, I can't see how you can then accept the June 6th/7th data. The time span over each day is exactly the same.

TC is drawing conclusions based on one data point. I dispute how they are using the data, not whether that data is accurate.

I wonder if their CPM will go down as a result of all this hype-cycling.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by dsil »

mikedouglas wrote: post #9
rw wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better data is over a longer span of time.

I'm not sure what you're saying. StatsCounter (the source of the data) reported that Bing was briefly a more popular referral than Yahoo, but that the trend has now reversed. If you don't trust the June 4th data, I can't see how you can then accept the June 6th/7th data. The time span over each day is exactly the same.

The point is that the one day they were above yahoo is also the one day they launched, and got everyone trying it for the first time and tons of launch-day media coverage. The number could be 100% accurate, it still doesn't mean much.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by amichail »

snprbob86 wrote: post #5
amichail wrote: post #4

Is it just me or does Google seem rather quiet about Bing? It seems that they don't see it as a threat at all.

What would you expect them to say? Anything they say simply draws attention to a competitor.

Given how much MS will be spending on advertising, everyone will probably know about it anyway.

An obvious thing for Google to say (if true): Google researchers have evaluated Bing results and have found them to be inferior.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by froo »

amichail wrote: post #13
snprbob86 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you expect them to say? Anything they say simply draws attention to a competitor.

Given how much MS will be spending on advertising, everyone will probably know about it anyway. An obvious thing for Google to say (if true): Google researchers have evaluated Bing results and have found them to be inferior.

Well look at the opposite side of the coin, what if Google researchers do evaluate Bing results and don't find them to be inferior. Google internal documents have been leaked before...

... I think it's better to just leave that Pandora's Box unopened and let your search results and positive image speak for itself.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by chadgeidel »

TwoBit wrote: post #15

Type "linux" into Google and you get good sensible answers. Type "linux" into Bing and you get something obviously tainted by the marketing department. Microsoft can't hope to win with this attitude. Nobody is going to use a search engine which can't be trusted.

I'm not sure that's the case. Using the "blind comparison" site (linked earlier) I can't immediately distinguish "something obviously tainted by the marketing department"

http://blindsearch.fejus.com/?q=linux

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by natmaster »

TwoBit wrote: post #15

Type "linux" into Google and you get good sensible answers. Type "linux" into Bing and you get something obviously tainted by the marketing department. Microsoft can't hope to win with this attitude. Nobody is going to use a search engine which can't be trusted.

The results for the search 'linux' are nearly identical for the first page. In fact, the first result is exactly the same.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by yagiz »

natmaster wrote: post #17
TwoBit wrote: post #15

Type "linux" into Google and you get good sensible answers. Type "linux" into Bing and you get something obviously tainted by the marketing department. Microsoft can't hope to win with this attitude. Nobody is going to use a search engine which can't be trusted.

The results for the search 'linux' are nearly identical for the first page. In fact, the first result is exactly the same.

I think he means the auto completion suggestions, not the search results.

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by blasdel »

TwoBit wrote: post #15

Type "linux" into Google and you get good sensible answers. Type "linux" into Bing and you get something obviously tainted by the marketing department. Microsoft can't hope to win with this attitude. Nobody is going to use a search engine which can't be trusted.

While that used to be the case with MSN Search / Live Search, it hasn't been true for a while (at least in the US index).

Re: Bing’s Reign As #2 Search Engine Lasted One Day

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Post by jpd »

rw wrote: post #11
mikedouglas wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're saying. StatsCounter (the source of the data) reported that Bing was briefly a more popular referral than Yahoo, but that the trend has now reversed. If you don't trust the June 4th data, I can't see how you can then accept the June 6th/7th data. The time span over each day is exactly the same.

TC is drawing conclusions based on one data point. I dispute how they are using the data, not whether that data is accurate. I wonder if their CPM will go down as a result of all this hype-cycling.

My apologies, when you said "write a followup when better data proves it wrong," I thought you were suggesting that it was now good data.
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