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Re: Tarsnap logo contest

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Here is the idea I submitted, uses Deja Vu monospace for the font. The shape is a bolt, and I am trying to go for the idea of industrial strength and security. http://dev.bitmono.com/tarsnap/tarsnap.png

This one is my favorite so far :) Very sleek. But I wish it distinguished "tar" and "snap" to give a subtle cue as to pronunciation. What if the "tar" part were set in a slightly heavier weight?

Re: Tarsnap logo contest

#112
post #49

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I've watched a bunch of my friends do 99designs contests and can back you up with the concern about stolen logos. In the contests I've run in the last couple years, I've tried to submit somewhat idiosyncratic briefs to constrain the possible logos. On the other hand, I'm betting you'll have a hard time naming a company that had to pay "thousands of dollars in lawyer fees" for buying what turned out to be a boosted lo…

> On the other hand, I'm betting you'll have a hard time naming a company that had to pay "thousands of dollars in lawyer fees" for buying what turned out to be a boosted logo. You just take the logo down and get a new one. It doesn't exactly work like that. I wish I could find my notes right now, I have a half-written blog on copyright issues for clients that I did a bunch of research and found these cases. Anyway,…

Would you care to cite a case where someone bought a logo on 99designs and was then sued for thousands of dollars in damages when that logo turned out to have been stolen? I couldn't find one. You'd think, if that had ever once actually happened, it would be easy to find.

I wish you and your wife the best. Believe it or not, I have very similar experiences working with startups! They reach out to us all the time for security work, and I'm always happy to talk to them; I like hearing about what they're doing. Most new startups are nowhere near ready to pay the going rate for software security assessments. When they get on the phone with me, I don't explain to them how they need to forget about buying that next server or renting their first office so they can make room in their budget for an assessment. I give them advice and point them to options for getting some kind of baseline coverage in advance of driving serious revenue through their system, at which point maybe it would make sense for an assessment.

My experience with all sorts of professional services practices mirrors this. Lawyers, for instance, will often do consults for free as a form of speculative work in anticipation of a client eventually being big enough to do real business with.

So... as a (perhaps inadvertent) spokesperson for your profession, why don't you tell us what someone like Colin should do in this situation? Hope he runs into a designer who will take his $500 and throw him a bone for the fun of it, as a change of pace from corporate work?

Re: Tarsnap logo contest

#113
I'm normally against the idea of spec work, but I think it makes sense for an open source project. People contribute code, sometimes even copy and graphics to open source projects, so what's the problem with crowd-sourcing a logo?

Re: Tarsnap logo contest

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A good way to make sure that the designer gets the full fee (without losing a commission to 99designs or by them participating in a design contest with no guarantee of getting paid) is to choose one designer and offer them the $500. Does the interest in design contests stem from a fear of paying and getting something you might not like? Or not knowing what you might like until you see it?

I have no idea what I might like. I'm hoping to get some discussion and sharing of ideas -- including from people who don't have any interest in or ability to actually produce a logo themselves. If I knew that, say, I wanted a graphic of a piece of tar being snapped in half, I'd look for an artist and say "here's $500, please draw this for me". But given that I have no idea what I want, I figure the more people I inv…

http://imgur.com/3v3lj9E

Here is a piece of tar being snapped in half.. it just makes sense, you know you like it. You can have this one.. its yours.

If I were your designer-for-a-day, for 500 bucks i would do a few iterations once the concept is okayed to get it just right for you and give you all the svg / png / pdf or whatever other format you would like, and downscale to icon sizes etc.. but not until, in the immortal words of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP_GOoBPKfQ (c/o mike monteiro;)

Re: Tarsnap logo contest

#117
post #36

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Right, but the issue is that 99 out of 100 designers will do work for you and not get paid for it, while one will. There are some good links to thoughts about speculative work here: http://www.nospec.com/articles

The other thing that will happen is that the most credible submissions will come from places like Indonesia and Vietnam and Bulgaria. I wonder what freaks pro designers out more, concern over the wasted time of contest losers, or concern over the extent to which offshore piecework designers can drive the prices down for people like Colin who simply don't want the full 40-80 hour project.

I'd prefer someone in this situation find a cheap, young gun abroad and pay them the $500.

Re: Tarsnap logo contest

#120

Choose one of these: http://codepoints.net/mathematical_operators I suggest ⊷ "Image of". http://codepoints.net/U+22B7

Interesting idea! I think "multiset union: might be the most appropriate: http://codepoints.net/U+228E

true, but the "image of" gives ideas of "two entities related by a link".
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