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Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by smtddr »

laureny wrote: post #14
Zigurd wrote: post #10

The tablet market is not like the phone market. In many ways, it will be easier for Android to gain market share, since the channel isn't controlled by carriers in some markets. Any OEM can enter this business, and many many will. Tablets are the post PC device, and the skip-the-PC device. Tablets will be the inexpensive personal internet access device for Asian markets that now rely on internet cafes. Apple will tak…

> Tablets are the post PC device, and the skip-the-PC device. It really depends what people mean by "post". If it's post as in "will replace", then it's nonsense: laptops and desktops are going to be around for a very long time. If it's "will complement the laptop/desktop market", then I completely agree.

Nah, the only people who actually need a laptop/desktop instead of a tablet+bluetoothKeyboard are people who need a lot more power than tablets can provide today. So that's digital artists, developers with their VMware/VirtualBox/etc and servers. I look to my non-techie dad(though he use to do those punch-card stuff) as an example; got him an iPad and the only thing he misses from his previous laptops is the keyboard.

I'm very interested in what other people think about this. Does the general public need anything more than a high-end tablet + bluetooth keyboard? Or maybe, just because some people enjoy a big screen, a tablet with a docking-station providing the keyboard, mouse and big screen?(which is basically a PC, I guess). Some of my coworkers predict a day where smartphones are so powerful, that you'll just put them in a docking-station at work and it'll be just as powerful as a high-end notebook today.

Today's consumer laptops/desktop are like Adobe Flash. They're both dead and the tech to replace them exists, we just haven't completely agreed on how to go about it - but they are both definitely dead.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

aroch wrote: post #11
danmaz74 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is far from doomed. But those who were saying that Apple would dominate the tablet market forever were wrong. PS please don't answer "but look at the profits". They will come down too, as it's only right in a competitive market.

I don't think anyone of note has said Apple will dominate the tablet market forever.

No, they said there was no such thing as a tablet market, only an iPad market.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by psbp »

adrianlmm wrote: post #12

I own an Asus TS300 tablet, and one thing comes to my mind, Android is mediocre, I've tried the iPad and the Surface and their quality is 10 times better, so I presume this numbers are due the cheap $59 tablets that have become popular, but just for the price.

I enjoy using my Nexus 7 over my iPad mini and 3rd generation iPad. The apps aren't at parity, but I think the OS is a lot more fluid and easy to navigate.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by scholia »

aroch wrote: post #11
danmaz74 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is far from doomed. But those who were saying that Apple would dominate the tablet market forever were wrong. PS please don't answer "but look at the profits". They will come down too, as it's only right in a competitive market.

I don't think anyone of note has said Apple will dominate the tablet market forever.

"The iPad didn’t enter the tablet market. It created the tablet market. The iPad’s role in the tablet market much more closely resembles the iPod’s role in the digital music player market a decade ago than it does the iPhone’s role in the 2008 phone market." http://daringfireball.net/2011/07/ipad_dominance

It was a popular meme among Apple fanboys a couple of years ago....

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by simonh »

danmaz74 wrote: post #9
selectodude wrote: post #7

Wait, wait. So in a quarter where the newest iPad is 6 months old, there were less iPads sold than every Android tablet manufacturer in the world combined? APPLE IS DOOMED

Apple is far from doomed. But those who were saying that Apple would dominate the tablet market forever were wrong. PS please don't answer "but look at the profits". They will come down too, as it's only right in a competitive market.

You mean how their margins in iPods and phones and desktop computers have .... er ... What was your point again?

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by clarky07 »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #17
adrianlmm wrote: post #12

I own an Asus TS300 tablet, and one thing comes to my mind, Android is mediocre, I've tried the iPad and the Surface and their quality is 10 times better, so I presume this numbers are due the cheap $59 tablets that have become popular, but just for the price.

The article claims the average selling price of non-iPad tablets (which must be 99% Android) increased by 17%, while the iPad mini pulled the iPad ASP down by the same amount, so your theory is at odds with the facts.

You have to know the real numbers to make that determination. Increased 17% from 100 is 117. iPad decreasing from 550 to 450 (pulled out of my ...) would mean the parent is still right.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by Touche »

badman_ting wrote: post #8
Touche wrote: post #5

Relevant: > I’m not trying to cherry-pick data. I’m simply observing, based on Apple’s sales data and Google’s activation data, that the tablet market doesn’t today look anything like the smartphone market ever did. The iPad didn’t enter the tablet market. It created the tablet market. The iPad’s role in the tablet market much more closely resembles the iPod’s role in the digital music player market a decade ago than…

Also relevant: the dates of those posts.

Those posts were making statements about the future, and both were unequivocally wrong.

Re: Research: Android taking over the tablet market from iOS

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Post by danmaz74 »

simonh wrote: post #27
danmaz74 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is far from doomed. But those who were saying that Apple would dominate the tablet market forever were wrong. PS please don't answer "but look at the profits". They will come down too, as it's only right in a competitive market.

You mean how their margins in iPods and phones and desktop computers have .... er ... What was your point again?

No I mean how their share of the profits in phones have come down. profits != margin
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