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Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Do you have a contract? That maybe why price you pay is cheaper. Seems like parent was only in US for a short period of time, so he probably didn't wanted to sign a, say 12 months, contract.

You have to look for it harder on the T-Mobile site for the $30 100 Minutes / "Unlimited Data" monthly pay-as-you-go. http://consumerist.com/2013/06/07/t-mobile-has-a-30-unlimite...

I was just looking at this, trying to figure out how to get it on their site and came up empty-handed. Even Walmart.com makes it easier:

http://www.walmart.com/ip/T-Mobile-SIM-Kit/24099996

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Tmobile-30-Wireless-Airtime-Card/1...

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Disappointing, but not a surprise: 1. Galaxy S 3 includes undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707047 2. Galaxy custom web browser allows random web sites to make links that wipe and reset the phone: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/117422-samsung-galaxy-s-3-re...

I sure could eat a chocolate Kit-Kat right about now... who's with me, open source brethren? (Kinda Suprise banned in the US)

> I sure could eat a chocolate Kit-Kat right about now...

Technically Kit-Kats aren't chocolate.

The Germans refer to vegetable fat-based cocoa mixes as glazed fat, the French mockingly call them brown margarine.

But under a controversial European Parliament ruling, vegetable fat mixes are permitted to be sold as family milk chocolate or house chocolate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/678141.stm

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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What do you call newsstand? It's a purely magazine advertising service. Would PizzaHut app be acceptable if it was called PizzaStand and allowed you to select from multiple pizza vendors?

Call it FoodStand, let if fill with food vendors in my neighbourhood (preferably those who offer delivery), and I'm all for it. That would transform PizzaHut from an obnoxious ad ("seller oriented") to a genuinely useful option I would probably use on occasion ("customer oriented"). I dislike intrusive ads (and spending good money on a physical gadget just to be met by "congratulations, and incidentally you've also b…

... but still allow me to delete it if I prefer using another food ordering app instead like GrubHub.

The only apps that should not be deletable are core apps like settings and the app store.

Even those should be deletable if it asks you to designate another app on your phone as the replacement for that core service. That replacement app should be API compatible with the data store of the phone itself.

I should be able to replace Apple Maps with Google Maps. Camera with any number of other Camera apps. Photos with any other local photo browsing app. Calendar with something like Fantastical. Weather with something like Yahoo Weather. etc. etc.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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The problem is with bundling. Carriers should be forbidden to bundle phones and plans long time ago. It's antitrust issue and a big one. Microsoft faced trouble for bundling their browser with operating system which you could easily replace with any other one while carriers are forcing phone manufacturers to accept ridiculous terms (unless they are Apple or recently Google) and customers have no way uninstall all the…

you're getting your terms wrong. The antitrust concept is called "tying" and what it means is using a lawfully-acquired monopoly (or dominant) position in one market to increase market share in another. Because no carrier has anything like a monopoly position in any market, and no phone manufacturer does either, is very far from an antitrust issue. It may be scummy and short-sighted, but it doesn't implicate antitrus…

In a sense cartel of carriers has a monopoly. That is even without any conscious wrong doing from their side they act like monopoly forcing prices and terms on manufacturers (breaking the cartel isn't in their interest so even if all of them want to do the best for themselves and don't collude the factual cartel won't be broken). I was expressing the sentiment and I don't doubt that as the law stands right now it's not formally "antitrust issue". It's however very similar in nature and should be treated as such.

It's close to impossible to introduce a phone without being tied to a carrier. That's exactly what monopoly looks like when dominant player (the one having a monopoly) controls one of the crucial parts of supply chain and can just cut you off if they wish (or if you don't comply).

Usual argument is that it's not a monopoly if you can shop around and choose different provider. Here you really can't without putting yourself in very unfavorable position comparing to players who do comply.

Back to bundling for a bit: it's a practice which is about always bad for a customer. Bonuses, paybacks, plans with phones, loyalty points at gas station. Every one of those reduces competition between providers/sellers by tying customers to them. If about every provider on the market uses the same bundling policy it becomes a monopoly from the point of view of manufacturers of bundled product - they will never be able to compete without bending backwards to meet the requirements of the monopoly owner(s). That was an idea behind lawsuit vs Microsoft (dominant player bundling their browser making competition (close to) impossible or even "unfair") and that's the exact same situation with carriers or cable providers. Them being a cartel of several instead of monolithic entity shouldn't cloud the issue here.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Yes I do, it just comes from Apple themselves. There are several icons you can't get rid of on the iphone for apple products and services.

And IMMEDIATELY the fandroids come out and pretend that we should be talking about how bad Apple is. +1 for the comment somewhere about how dense Android fans appear to be. However bad you think Apple might be, Samsung is far, far worse, just much less successful and slick about it. I had thought the old adage about "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" was only believed by halfwits, apparently I was wrong.

FWIW, I was the first one in this thread to point out the app deletion issue on the iPhone and I am an iPhone user and haven't yet owned an Android. Undeletable crapware is crapware whether it is installed by Apple, Samsung or the carriers.

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No. It's a Samsung problem. You don't see crapware on iPhones do you?

Yes, i can't move the magazines crap to the 'garbage' folder. Also, i can't use amazon appstore or something like that. app store lock-in is the ultimate bloatware. Only place i really don't see bloatware is on my hacked HP touchpad. My only tablet until a month ago was a 32gb HP touchpad that I got from $199. On day one I installed android on it and helped with some the kernel tweaks. Now i'm just running cyanogenmo…

> I'm just very glad i have the touchpad. Wonder if a nexus tablet is as good... probably not.

I prefer my Nexus 7 over my Touchpad. It's a bit faster and much lighter. Touchpad has mostly been relegated to the Touchstone charging dock since I got the Nexus 7 last year. Also, no app compatibilities that the Touchpad had at times (mostly due to the 1024x768 screen). Also, the Touchpad is far from perfect when running Android 4.2 or later.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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I don't like it any more than you, but to Samsung and its investors, the undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark is a feature. Not only does it generate additional revenue with little additional design time, but it also indicates that Samsung has a healthy and attractive business in which other businesses would like to participate.

Somehow I find it hard to interpret an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark as a sign of a healthy business. It has the familiar smell of desperation to monetize everything. Unless of course Samsung is striving to be known as the Ryanair of consumer electronics.

We blame Samsung. Most users will just deal with it. Few and far between care enough about crapware to abandon a phone manufacturer over it (assuming they even blame Samsung for it at all).

Marketing people from major companies use a Samsung phone and sees the bookmark will think "I wish our brand was there. How do we reach out to the carrier or Samsung to put our brand there as well?"

a few weeks later in a meeting with a carrier or Samsung, "Yes, we can put a bookmark there for X dollars. However if you want it to be undeletable, you can pay 2X dollars" or "Pizza Hut is paying us 2X dollars for that and we don't want to put more than one there, so you need to outbid pizza hut for that spot."

next step.... money rolling in.

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Where do I obtain one of these "cheap no-handset mobile plans" on my carrier of choice?

You can do such a comparison probably in any country worldwide except US. For US in particular the "subsidy" answer is simple - no, you're not getting any subsidies, in mobile comms pricing you're getting ripped off, and noone has any idea on how to fix it.

I don't understand this idea that subsidies are mutually exclusive with getting ripped off.

Yeah, I pay a lot of money. I also get ~$450 back to help pay for my phone. That's a subsidy. The fact that my monthly bill is ~$65/month/person is irrelevant to that.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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I just put in Italian Vodafone SIM into unlocked iPhone 4S with iOS 7 and got Vodafone bookmark in Safari, which is indeed deletable. Haven't noticed new contacts so far.

It's not the SIM, it's the carrier bundle. Each iPhone ships (and updates) some XML files for each operator that contain all specific operator settings. These vary from radio configurations to features lock/unlock; eg: you can tell the iPhone how to remote-check whether tethering is activated on the data plan, and change the UI accordingly; it can also contain a custom action box to show to the user when they try to…

Yep, it's the carrier bundle. I have an unlocked Canadian iPhone 5 and when I put a T-moble sim in when travelling to the USA, I get an entry in my stocks app for T-moble.
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