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The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Yes I do, it just comes from Apple themselves. There are several icons you can't get rid of on the iphone for apple products and services.

True, but at least nothing from third parties

What's the difference? Crapware is crapware no matter who the vendor is.

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No. It's a Samsung problem. You don't see crapware on iPhones do you?

I don't like it any more than you, but to Samsung and its investors, the undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark is a feature. Not only does it generate additional revenue with little additional design time, but it also indicates that Samsung has a healthy and attractive business in which other businesses would like to participate.

Somehow I find it hard to interpret an undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark as a sign of a healthy business.

It has the familiar smell of desperation to monetize everything. Unless of course Samsung is striving to be known as the Ryanair of consumer electronics.

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Disappointing, but not a surprise: 1. Galaxy S 3 includes undeletable Pizza Hut bookmark http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1707047 2. Galaxy custom web browser allows random web sites to make links that wipe and reset the phone: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/117422-samsung-galaxy-s-3-re...

#2 is a link from September 2012. You mean this is still not fixed (as in >99% can update to a version that is fixed)? Edit: "UPDATED 26 September: Samsung has told SlashGear that Galaxy S III users should ensure their phone is running the latest software as this resolves any issues: 'We would like to assure our customers that the recent security issue concerning the GALAXY S III has already been resolved through a s…

I don't know if it was pushed through on all providers but I know I got it on AT&T months ago.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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My HP printer is region-locked. When I moved from Europe to the US it refused to accept ink cartridges bought in the US.

I have to ask: why move a printer from Europe to the US?

Buying a new printer including cartridges would have been considerably cheaper.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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There is a difference between default apps and apps for which the manufacturer was paid to put on the phone in order to advertise to the purchaser. Apple does not get paid by another company to load its default apps onto the phone.

What do you call newsstand? It's a purely magazine advertising service. Would PizzaHut app be acceptable if it was called PizzaStand and allowed you to select from multiple pizza vendors?

I think there would be a lot less dissatisfaction with a generic Pizza app.

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THIS is what I don't understand. Why do people call it "subsidized" when you're locked in to a 2 year contract with an early termination fee. IT IS NOT SUBSIDIZED, PEOPLE. You may say, well I'm paying the same per month whether I take a new phone or not from the carrier, so... it's subsidized right? Nope, they're just gouging you when you're on an old phone. Taking the new phone just slightly reduces your disadvantag…

I doubt that anyone on this site is the least bit confused as to how the system actually works. It's not exactly a secret. They still front the money, then get it back from you over time. I'd say that qualifies as "subsidized", especially when the "over time" payments are not broken out separately. Regardless of how it works out afterwards, the fact is that most American buyers prefer to pay $200 up front with a cont…

Comparing oranges with oranges - you compare the "bundle" cost with the price you'd pay if you simply took the phone on credit from any electronics shop with the same upfront payment and length of contract, and added a cheap no-handset mobile plan.

The phone qualifies as "subsidized" only if buying it from your mobile company turns out cheaper than if buying it separately. Generally it isn't.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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I think that this is a great opportunity to clarify laws. There are a few EU countries that require phones to be SIM-unlocked at the end of contracts. The question is - will this fall foul of those laws, as people can use the device with other carriers in Europe but not outside? There will presumably be a court case around this (as it's the first one) and the result will probably force even more openness for EU citiz…

The problem is with bundling. Carriers should be forbidden to bundle phones and plans long time ago. It's antitrust issue and a big one. Microsoft faced trouble for bundling their browser with operating system which you could easily replace with any other one while carriers are forcing phone manufacturers to accept ridiculous terms (unless they are Apple or recently Google) and customers have no way uninstall all the…

you're getting your terms wrong. The antitrust concept is called "tying" and what it means is using a lawfully-acquired monopoly (or dominant) position in one market to increase market share in another. Because no carrier has anything like a monopoly position in any market, and no phone manufacturer does either, is very far from an antitrust issue.

It may be scummy and short-sighted, but it doesn't implicate antitrust law.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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Reminds me of my Brother Printer/Fax/Scanner. Once ANY of the 4 ink carts is empty, you can no longer do ANYTHING. No scanning to a SD card, no outbound faxes, etc, until you replace the ink. Of course, there is a simple "tape over the holes" hack to get around this, but it's still lame.

This is disappointing -- I really like my barebones brother laser printer, I thought they might be one of the few honest printer manufacturers.

I think inkjets and lasers are basically different companies. From every vendor. The laser products just work, the inkjet products just don't.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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#1 is not a GS3 problem, it is a carrier problem specific to Vodafone, which had a marketing deal with Pizza Hut at the time of the GS3's release. Other carriers did not forcibly include undeletable Pizza Hut bookmarks.

No. It's a Samsung problem. You don't see crapware on iPhones do you?

Samsung's customers are the carriers. The carrier asks Samsung for specific features or changes in the firmware build for the phones they buy from Samsung. Samsung satisfies their customer by giving them what they want.

The carrier is who you should gripe for the firmware misfeatures which you don't like in their phones. But due to the monopoly situation, they don't have to care very much what their subscribers think.

Re: The new Galaxy Note 3 is region-locked

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I pay $30/month in the US for a t-mobile month-to-month sim with 5gb data (soft cap), unlimited texts and 100 minutes on my nexus 4

Do you have a contract? That maybe why price you pay is cheaper. Seems like parent was only in US for a short period of time, so he probably didn't wanted to sign a, say 12 months, contract.

You have to look for it harder on the T-Mobile site for the $30 100 Minutes / "Unlimited Data" monthly pay-as-you-go.

http://consumerist.com/2013/06/07/t-mobile-has-a-30-unlimite...

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