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Yeah, no kidding. Feeding and providing medical care for the Untouchables in India? She should have made an iPhone app to help find friends in restaurants nearby, that would have made he a real selfless altriust.

in her letters she said she was forbiden to provide actual health care. all they gave was a place for the sick to convalesce. also, she and most othe rreligious still advocate over population and against several sane health treatments. not to mention education. no little good religion does compensate for the long term damage.

> she and most othe rreligious still advocate over population and against several sane health treatments. not to mention education

What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

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yet another article that values our time at $0. come on, we all make something like $80-130/hr. Are you really going to spend less than 1 hour maintain this sort-of-github instance you have?

He gains not only hosting value from maintaining the instance, but also the experience. And the experience is a valuable asset that you can't really buy with money. Obviously, a sort of pre-built image to spawn "own" Gitolite/Gitlab/whatever instance would be nice, so noone but those particularly interested in the process would have to spend their time setting things up. But I suspect such images/build scripts alread…

Check out turnkeyliniux.org. They offer prebuilt linux images of popular apps - including Gitlab:

http://www.turnkeylinux.org/gitlab

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Off topic: People who use Mother Teresa as the canonical example of selfless altruism need to read something about Mother Teresa so they don't look so silly.

Yeah, no kidding. Feeding and providing medical care for the Untouchables in India? She should have made an iPhone app to help find friends in restaurants nearby, that would have made he a real selfless altriust.

This is exactly what I was talking about.

When asked "Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?" Mother Teresa replied "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

She was, until the end of her life anyway, a very devout Christian but her order was a bit fringe. She didn't really provide medical care, she referred to her facilities as "houses of the dying" and their suffering was a good thing as it brought them closer to God so pain management was basically non existent. There are reams of statements from medical professionals, Indian and Western, that visited her facilities and the general consensus was that they were "horrifying" and lacked even the most basic attention to cleanliness.

She did feed a lot of people, but not many compared to other charities operating in the same places that had smaller budgets.

I also can't dismiss the fact that she used her reputation to support war criminals like the Duvalier family, although in other comments you do dismiss this so ... sure, I'll just concentrate on the rest.

If you do believe in the christian afterlife then perhaps she is a great person as she probably did convert a lot of sick people in India as they suffered and became more likely to accept Jesus as their saviour. If you don't then she let poor people die unnecessarily and intentionally heaped unnecessary suffering on the poor.

So like I said, definitely, unequivocally, based on her own statements alone, she is not a good canonical example of selfless altruism since a good canonical example would not be judged only by a fringe sect of Christianity that looks to enhance the suffering of the poor.

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Hitchens is not an unbiased citation, not even close. He routinely engaged in character denigration of several religious individuals, most notably Mother Teresa. The main argument he seems to have had with her is that he didn't think religious people should be allowed to have political opinions, and she did. Here is a thorough review of his vitriol against her: http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2013/04/mother-te…

Hitchens is not the only one who has come out against Mother Theresa. Here's a recent study by the University of Montreal: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-03/uom-mta022813...

They really don't get altruism at all, do they? The 'myth' of altruism? What is mythical about it? If they really want to understand it, they should try practicing it. Perhaps if they would write a few less papers and help out a few more poor people in their newly-found spare time, they might actually start to understand it.

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Hitchens is not the only one who has come out against Mother Theresa. Here's a recent study by the University of Montreal: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-03/uom-mta022813...

They really don't get altruism at all, do they? The 'myth' of altruism? What is mythical about it? If they really want to understand it, they should try practicing it. Perhaps if they would write a few less papers and help out a few more poor people in their newly-found spare time, they might actually start to understand it.

I think their point was that the public perception of Mother Teresa's altruism is a myth created by a media campaign. That does not necessarily mean that she did not behave altruistically at times or that altruism itself is a myth, but that the person the public imagines never really lived. They point out her flaws and mistakes and unwillingness to help when she had the means to do so, so she's much like any other person who tries to do good.

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They really don't get altruism at all, do they? The 'myth' of altruism? What is mythical about it? If they really want to understand it, they should try practicing it. Perhaps if they would write a few less papers and help out a few more poor people in their newly-found spare time, they might actually start to understand it.

I think their point was that the public perception of Mother Teresa's altruism is a myth created by a media campaign. That does not necessarily mean that she did not behave altruistically at times or that altruism itself is a myth, but that the person the public imagines never really lived. They point out her flaws and mistakes and unwillingness to help when she had the means to do so, so she's much like any other pe…

The whole article of theirs is nothing but a rehash of Hitchens' book. This is just character assassination and nothing more.

http://www.catholicleague.org/canadian-atheists-rip-mother-t...

It is also telling that Hitchens' book had no citations for any of his claims either.

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