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Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE

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There doesn't appear to be a .zip version. They have zip versions of the Intellij so they may add it if you do a feature request. The installer only requires admin to install to the Program Files. If you say no, it installs to your local user location (in Roaming).

Ah, interesting. Thank you.

Managed to download, then installed in alternate location as non-admin. Working good so far.

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I own personal licenses for Idea, RubyMine, and PyCharm - all amazing good products. Where I am working now, Eclipse is the supported environment so I am using it. OK, but not as good... BTW, when they open sourced Idea for Java, I was pleasantly surprised how easy it was to build. Nicely packaged.

Is there any point in owning a license for IntelliJ and RubyMine/PyCharm? I thought that IntelliJ Ultimate had all the features of RubyMine and PyCharm but I haven't used them so I could be mistaken.

RubyMine and PyCharm feel more light weight, meaning quicker and less resource use.

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imo you are making huge tradeoffs for very little benefit, as there is no such thing as a 100% secure system anyway. But still its your decision, to each their own.

I learned this paranoia while running Windows XP through the 2000's and I can tell you it served me very well. While others were rebuilding their systems I was working. I realize Linux in 2013 is not so dangerous, but take a gander at recent java security bulletins when you get a chance anyway. Steve Gibson recommends not even having it installed if you don't need it (I don't) and that's good enough for me. Also, I t…

> I realize Linux in 2013 is not so dangerous, but take a gander at recent java security bulletins when you get a chance anyway.

Off the top of my head, all of the recent serious vulnerabilities were applet related. The JRE doesn't require a Java plugin for your browser, no plugin, no applets.

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Just tried Professional one on OSX, CPU goes above 100%. Anyone having same issue?

Well, It's a multi-threaded program, and when you create a project it will start out by indexing everything. So while it's doing that, it can spend quite a lot of CPU time -- "top" etc. typically show the CPU time spent by all the threads in a process, so you can easily see it go up to N * 100% based on your cores. That can get occasionally annoying, if you drop in a a bunch of 1mb text files in your repository and i…

> That can get occasionally annoying, if you drop in a a bunch of 1mb text files in your repository and it insists of examining them.

You can right click the directory and mark it as excluded from the project. We have an integration test suite that likes to emit gigabytes of XML into its local directory - which IDEA happily tries to index. Excluding it saves me a lot of CPU time.

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Excuse me if I'm being naive, but does Python development need an IDE? In what ways could it be helpful? I'm under the impression that Python is not compiled generally. I'm coming from the Ruby point of view

I've tried a lot of IDE's for python development in the past and always went back to a basic text editor; the extra features never outweighed the bloat. But then i found PyCharm and never looked back. I feel i develop at least 50% faster with any serious project; i still use Sublime for the one-off scripts, but everything else i find the introspection, code completion and refactoring just so good its now hard to go w…

Same boat here. I got PyCharm when it was on sale last year. Never looked back. I enjoyed setting up my viertualenvs, having multiple projects open, source code navigation. And then to top it off, all the Javascript/Html/css editing stuff as well. All in an easy to setup package. Rich set of plug-ins, too.

Note: I still use my other text editors for one-off file editing and such, but PyCharm is my control center for the projects...

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Out of curiosity, can you explain why you created the community edition for PyCharm, but not others?

First, with PyCharm there is a possibility to have both a community edition which covers a sufficient breadth of scenarios and a good value-add for the professional version to make it commercially attractive. This wouldn't work for other products. Second, we're specifically mentioning that we want people who first start to learn programming to have access to our products. And a lot of learning these days happens with…

Awesome! I think you guys are going to be for Python what Eclipse was for Java about a decade ago. I'm a paying PyCharm customer, and I absolutely love it. The pace of development is excellent too.

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Android Studio is a rebranded version of the Community Edition of IntelliJ IDEA which was free and open source for some time already. The idea probably is to get the people to use (and love) it and then when they want the non-free features, to buy it. And with Android Studio: Probably Google is paying a bit for the development.

Google is not paying anything for the development of Android Studio. Instead, they've put their own development team to work on the Android features in Android Studio, which we then integrate into our distribution of IntelliJ IDEA.

Thanks for clearing that up!

And thanks for such a great IDE!

So if I'am using Android Studio I am a bit ahead (Android specific) feature wise that by using the latest EAP of IntelliJ IDEA?

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