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Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what. - A quote by Stephen Fry Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an a…

If you are going to hinge your argument on hypocrisy, then Stephen Fry might not have been the best example http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/25/stephen_fry_not_upse...

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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post #36

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what. - A quote by Stephen Fry Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an a…

You can't say Mc Donald's sucks and eat a burger from them (that would be hypocrisy). You can't? Who's going to stop you. A complaint tweet is one thing - if that was the end of it, no one would have heard of this incident. Barring a person for a complaint tweet has made it a much bigger media issue.

I think McDonalds is gross but when I'm in a hurry I stop for breakfast once in awhile.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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post #36

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what. - A quote by Stephen Fry Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an a…

> Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an action that negatively affects the sales of a company and if you expect to benefit from it, in return for which the company doesn't allow you, I think it's fair.

EasyJet is not a charity; it is a business I.E. Company.

When services were not rendered as expected when the soldier mentioned in the article couldn't be on time, this gentlemen publically stated (the Tweet) that the company was derelict in its obligation to the customer. Now he was at his queue expecting to see the completion of services he has already paid for.

If I'm at McDonalds and the service sucks, I will voice as such and since I've already paid, I still expect my hamburger to be delivered to my satisfaction. Or a refund. That analogy actually doesn't apply in this case, since the service is transportation, not fast food. If people's appointments cannot be kept and connections not completed, that is well within the realm of legitimate criticism, pending services be damned.

If free speech doesn't apply when critiquing company service by customers (prior to, during and post rendition of services), then sites like Yelp should be shut down.

You may note, they aren't being shut down.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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post #36

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what. - A quote by Stephen Fry Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an a…

He already bought the ticket. he was in the boarding queue.

Your analogy should be changed to: 'whether McDonalds should let you eat a burger AFTER you buy it from them'.

This is simply Easyjet breaking a contract - as long as he's not broken the terms himself. which would be surprising in this case.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd go one step further, as air lines are providers of critical infrastructure, they should have damn good reasons to ban me from buying tickets at their airline.

Domestic flights in the UK aren't critical infrastructure, they're luxury. We have trains.

> Domestic flights in the UK aren't critical infrastructure, they're luxury. We have trains.

Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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Freedom of speech is about stopping the government from interfering with your speech. AFAIK there's no law which prohibits a company doing business with you because you made a negative comment about them. In this case it's slightly more grey because the passenger had already bought a ticket and it's not clear if the terms of the sale would allow easyjet to revoke the sale on that basis.

The contract you agree to when you buy an airline ticket normally contains a clause allowing the airline to deny boarding for any reason or no reason at all, with the only compensation to you being a refund of the ticket price. They usually don't exercise these clauses, but they are certainly free to do so at will. Had they denied him boarding, perhaps it would have been a bad business/PR decision, but there almost c…

>Had they denied him boarding, perhaps it would have been a bad business/PR decision,

That's exactly what they did and that's exactly what happened.

>but there almost certainly wouldn't have been any legal liability for the airline.

Legal liability is the least of their worries today. It's a PR nightmare. People all over the world think they're thin-skinned bullies.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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post #36

It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more... than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so fucking what. - A quote by Stephen Fry Free speech is one thing, but abuse of free speech is another. When you perform an a…

> You can't say Mc Donald's sucks and eat a burger from them (that would be hypocrisy).

Would it? I would have thought that saying "nobody should ever eat at mcdonald's" and then eating there would be, but what's wrong with acknowledging that something sucks and doing it anyway, presumably because it's the least bad option at the time?

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Domestic flights in the UK aren't critical infrastructure, they're luxury. We have trains.

> Domestic flights in the UK aren't critical infrastructure, they're luxury. We have trains. Northern Ireland is part of the UK.

There are ferries.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trains tend to be more expensive than equivalent domestic flights, so perhaps it's the trains that are the luxury.

Not really. Advance fares on most UK train lines are cheaper than advance fares on most planes IMX. The mistake most people make is comparing walk-up-and-go train fares with advance plane tickets.

Return, Glasgow to London, 1/10/13-8/10/13 Cheapest tickets.

Train: £126.70

Easyjet: £72.98

You may be right though - I didn't spend much time researching this at all; I just did a couple of web searches: easyjet and trainline.

Re: EasyJet refuses to let columnist on board for sending critical tweet

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post #28

Holy cow, this is why I quit all the mainstream social media and never even got on Twitter in the first place... because people treat it WAY too seriously

It can be pretty serious. Especially as a tool for consumers to voice their concerns or disapproval of corporations. That can do some damage.
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