Oh look, another community edition program. "Open core is the new shareware."
http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2009/10/16/open-core-shareware.htm...
JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
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Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#32I've bought the 2.7 version a couple of months ago and I don't regret it, but does anyone know if the 3 (pro edition) will be available as a free update for people like me ? I've read on the site that people like me are supposed to receive a free update by email, but i didn't see anything... Anyone in my case ?
From the site: "PyCharm license is permanent and includes one year of free product upgrades since the purchase date, including even major version upgrades."
Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#33I've bought the 2.7 version a couple of months ago and I don't regret it, but does anyone know if the 3 (pro edition) will be available as a free update for people like me ? I've read on the site that people like me are supposed to receive a free update by email, but i didn't see anything... Anyone in my case ?
From the site: "PyCharm license is permanent and includes one year of free product upgrades since the purchase date, including even major version upgrades."
Yes, that's the line I read as well, but nothing in my mail. So i was wondering if someone did receive that update by mail, or if it's just too early.
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#34I've been using the Anki[1] spaced repetition system to quickly get up to speed with the PyCharm key bindings. I've been using the JetBrains screencasts[2] to get up to speed with the IDEs features. Although these are too thin on the ground currently and i confess that i keep getting distracted by the JavaScript / AngularJS videos! The presenter on those i find draws me in more. Some of the PyCharm videos don't even…
If you are a Vim fan, try using IdeaVim plugin with PyCharm. Plugins can be installed directly from the in-IDE plugin library.
I'm a fussy bugger sometimes :-) Over the years I've learned to shy away from vim plugins.
In my experience they're always missing a crucial motion or two and it just becomes counter productive for me to keep stumbling into the missing command. I think it's the curse of vim, we all use different subsets of its abilities!
Another factor is the vim layer tends to be incomplete in terms of functionality exposed by the host application. ST2's Vintage mode (which i did play with) is a good example of this problem.
EDIT: brain fart
Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#35The .exe download is blocked at the office. Is there a .zip version available? I also assume the installer doesn't require administrative privileges... Am I right?
It does require administrative privileges in my experience.
Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#36Does this mean that the PHP, Ruby, and Obj-C versions will be seeing community editions soon as well?
They provide an edition comparison matrix[1] that mentions the only languages supported in the open-source version are:
Java, Scala, Groovy, Clojure, XML, XSD, DTD and Regular Expressions.
So unfortunately not. They do offer free open source project licenses though if you're working on an opensource project, or even 50% off of commercial licenses to startups.
http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_m...
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#37Excuse me if I'm being naive, but does Python development need an IDE? In what ways could it be helpful? I'm under the impression that Python is not compiled generally.
I'm coming from the Ruby point of view
Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#38Oh look, another community edition program. "Open core is the new shareware." http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2009/10/16/open-core-shareware.htm...
From the article:
And, this is true whether the Core is GPL'd or permissively licensed. In both cases, the final story is the same: take a proprietary license or be stuck with cripple-ware.
Except that IntelliJ Community Edition is a perfectly usable and able IDE already. In fact, Android Studio is based on it. Certainly not crippleware.
And in this case I very much like this model. InteliJ CE is open source software under the Apache License version 2.0. If JetBrains would disappear tomorrow (hopefully not!). A non-profit project or another company could continue where they left off.
That said, I am a very happy user of the Ultimate Edition :).
Re: JetBrains releases open-source Python IDE
#39Excuse me if I'm being naive, but does Python development need an IDE? In what ways could it be helpful? I'm under the impression that Python is not compiled generally. I'm coming from the Ruby point of view
IDE's are used for more than just building the code; they provide UIs for debugging capabilities, code completion, syntax highlighting, refactoring support, VCS integrations, and much, much more. That said, I do my python development in Sublime Text using the Jedi autocomplete library (https://github.com/davidhalter/jedi).
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First of all, the team being young could refer to the age of the team and not the employees' ages. Either way, are you seriously that uncomfortable about your current age that this stands out to you? Have we become so PC that noticing that your company is young and then saying your observation out loud or typing it with your keyboard is now discrimination?
So, would calling it a "friendly, white team" be merely an observation and only a problem for PC people who were seriously uncomfortable about their own race?